EVE General Discussion

I used to have a 3 account ice mining corporation. It took many months and mil of isk to train 2 Mac and an Orca for ice mining.
I could log in anytime during the day and mine my quota of ice. Now I cant even fill one mining ship let alone an Orca before the ice is depleted!! If I dont log on withen an hour of server startup I prob wont get any Ice for the day. Even if they triple the size of an ice field thier are so many ships the ice would be gone withen an hour. If I had the time I could check every hour for ice but like many players I do not have the time to play the game 24/7. Ive had to cancel 2 of my accounts because I cant make enouph isk to make them worth while. Many of you may think this sounds boring. If all I did was ice mine you would be correct. With the isk I make from ice mining I am able to do anything I wanted over the years. Now Im just about to close down my last account. CCP you need to bring back permanant ice fields or at least respawn an ice asteroid in a different location when one is depleted.

Why should I have to shut down my fleet? All those hours of training and millions of ISK are wasted!!!. What CCP did was wrong!!

I have several char in different locations looking for ice. Their are so many players ice mining that all ice is gone withen 1 hour.

Ive found out combat is very expensive.

You do realise that the ice belts are not like the normal asteroid belts... they DO NOT respawn on downtime...

They do infact respawn every 4 hours.... not in the same location, because an ice belt is an anomoly so it moves around in random places in the system

PROTIP:
when the last ice asteroid is depleted, make a note of the time when that block popped.. (for example 16:19 hours)
4 hours later (20:19 hours) -- the belt will be back, and then it be brand new


Common problems after digesting this knowledge:
I WANT TO MINE ICE 24/7 --> if you want to do that.. go to a system in nullsec that doesnt have many people and happily mine there....
OR.... kill the ice belt, and then shoot normal ORE asteroids until 4 hours later.. when the belt comes back
OR.... you can loggout and do something else inrl or play another game.. or do whatever it is you wanna do, until the ice belt is back.. set an alarm on your phone or something

It's really not that hard

move to a shattered wormhole, nomad style.

move to null-sec, its so easy. just put up a POS, stront it, and mine dat ice. plenty of null-sec systems in NPC space with ice belts that are empty of all people. try sansha space, for example.

If I could play EVE 24/7 I would not be complaining. I only have the time to play a few hours each day. Ive found out ice mining
used to be the quickest way to make isk.

yes move to a shattered hole, HUGE ice fields there

In that case.. move to a system with ice (which i'm guessing you already have done)
and PRIMARILY hit the normal ore belts for ISK... then.. if you see the icebelt on probe scanner.. GOGOGOGOG ICE RUSH (like everyone else does)

Yes.. the ice will despawn very quickly because everyone wants to mine it.. (hence why its called an ice RUSH).. but the ore belts will remain there for you to mine after the belts are depleted



If you want to make money to pay for your accounts.. continue your mining.. but also consider the following

1: highsec PI -- choose a planet close to a tradehub and buy the ingredients for coolant (water + electrolytes 40x each manufacturing job) import them to the planet of your choice and create coolant.. export the coolant and resell at tradehub for profit (protip -- only use planets with 15% or lower taxation.. you can find the tax details on the information panel of the customs office of each planet -- sidenote: these may change on occasion.. and also another sidenote: -- check out the trade skills for a skill called 'Custom Office Expertise' this will reduce your NPC tax (max of 10%) by 10% each level (level 5 in this skill = 5% NPC tax + whatever the corporation owner of the customs office put on it)

2: Datacore farming
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Datacore_Farming

3: Research and Development of BPO's
Buy BPO's and make them PERFECT.. resell them for profit
This takes some skil and knowledge about what BPO's will be profitable and what are not, but the more your research the better

4: Moon mining -- only possible to do in 0.4 (YES 0.4.. it used to be 0.3 but you can do it in 0.4 now.. CCP changed the moons in 0.4 space some updates ago)


FYI -- I have 4 accounts (12 characters in total)
each of them is trained up for highsec PI, mining, datacore farmining and development of BPO's..
If i remember right.. i currently have 72 planets making various things
(this alone gives me an average of around 2-3 billion every 30 days)

datacore mining gives me around 800-900 million every 30 days

researching BPO's gives me around 4-5 billion every 30 days (sometimes more depending on the BPO's..)


and this is on top of my normal mining --- if i can do it.. why not you?

doublepost. Whoops.

I couldn't agree more

More conflict is more fun, and more storyline and more history.. and of course... more opportunities for BIG fleet battles