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BoomBoss
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2015-02-20 14:38:58 UTC
6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.

When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this?
Noriko Mai
#2 - 2015-02-20 14:40:41 UTC
BoomBoss wrote:
6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.

When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this?

You can't use you JD anymore? Shocked

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Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#3 - 2015-02-20 14:41:23 UTC
BoomBoss wrote:
6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.

When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this?


...

m8, you're a couple expansions behind.

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Ryder 'ook
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-02-20 14:44:23 UTC
... but a couple of expectations in front ...


INB4L btw...

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BoomBoss
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2015-02-20 14:48:33 UTC
Soldarius wrote:
BoomBoss wrote:
6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.

When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this?


...

m8, you're a couple expansions behind.



What ya mean? Carriers 5 LY max range. Jump timers that effectively reduce the jump capability which forces you to travel by gate when you get back in the game from close to highsec. How is that even remotely possible now? A carrier solo traveling by gate... should give a funny killmail.

I have not yet seen a post about this jump fatigue being gone or heavily nerfed to respectable levels.
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-02-20 14:51:30 UTC
BoomBoss wrote:
Soldarius wrote:
BoomBoss wrote:
6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.

When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this?


...

m8, you're a couple expansions behind.



What ya mean? Carriers 5 LY max range. Jump timers that effectively reduce the jump capability which forces you to travel by gate when you get back in the game from close to highsec. How is that even remotely possible now? A carrier solo traveling by gate... should give a funny killmail.

I have not yet seen a post about this jump fatigue being gone or heavily nerfed to respectable levels.


So the change is working as intended. Good to know.

Why do you think there should be compensation for a skill that still has value to you?

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BoomBoss
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2015-02-20 14:56:56 UTC
Elenahina wrote:
BoomBoss wrote:
Soldarius wrote:
BoomBoss wrote:
6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.

When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this?


...

m8, you're a couple expansions behind.



What ya mean? Carriers 5 LY max range. Jump timers that effectively reduce the jump capability which forces you to travel by gate when you get back in the game from close to highsec. How is that even remotely possible now? A carrier solo traveling by gate... should give a funny killmail.

I have not yet seen a post about this jump fatigue being gone or heavily nerfed to respectable levels.


So the change is working as intended. Good to know.

Why do you think there should be compensation for a skill that still has value to you?



What value? What used to take maybe an hour takes days now. Getting solo with a carrier back to deep nul is just not possible. So, you tell me what value?
Memphis Baas
#8 - 2015-02-20 15:05:27 UTC
Wait until they take capital ships out of the game.

Note: I am not serious.
BigWolfUK
Sons-of-Liberty
#9 - 2015-02-20 15:23:23 UTC
BoomBoss wrote:
Elenahina wrote:
BoomBoss wrote:
Soldarius wrote:
BoomBoss wrote:
6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.

When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this?


...

m8, you're a couple expansions behind.



What ya mean? Carriers 5 LY max range. Jump timers that effectively reduce the jump capability which forces you to travel by gate when you get back in the game from close to highsec. How is that even remotely possible now? A carrier solo traveling by gate... should give a funny killmail.

I have not yet seen a post about this jump fatigue being gone or heavily nerfed to respectable levels.


So the change is working as intended. Good to know.

Why do you think there should be compensation for a skill that still has value to you?



What value? What used to take maybe an hour takes days now. Getting solo with a carrier back to deep nul is just not possible. So, you tell me what value?


That was the intended idea of Jump Fatique
Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
#10 - 2015-02-20 15:25:00 UTC
I only just got into capitol ships. I am mostly in a WH so almost never use the JD. Yet JDC to at least 4 is in my skill plan. And not having it has already been a PITA.

You don't get compensated for a skill you stop using by choice.

AKA the scientist.

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#11 - 2015-02-20 15:25:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
BoomBoss wrote:
6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.

When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this?


You don't get compensated. You shouldn't be training skills like they are going to be useful in the same way they are now, it's not CCP's fault that people don't understand this.

I say this as someone who fully hates jump fatigue (both the actual mechanic and the fubar thinking behind it).
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2015-02-20 15:36:49 UTC
BoomBoss wrote:
6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.

When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this?

Do you even play this game? Jdc 5 is still a mandatory skill and even more important than before.

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BoomBoss
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2015-02-20 15:53:36 UTC  |  Edited by: BoomBoss
Eugene Kerner wrote:
BoomBoss wrote:
6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.

When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this?

Do you even play this game? Jdc 5 is still a mandatory skill and even more important than before.



What part of a heavily nerfed skill by CCP choice, so forced upon us, that takes ages to train which used to be useful? The skill training time is not even remotely in line with what it used to be.

With a carrier, how often do you actually jump and how often do you travel by gate?
BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
#14 - 2015-02-20 15:56:00 UTC
I have JDC 5 and it works just fine relative to the changes. If I did not have it it would be worse, so... what is the problem here?

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Lan Wang
African Atomic.
OnlyFleets.
#15 - 2015-02-20 16:01:08 UTC
can i have my bomber and blops skills back because i cant use the ships to there full potential by jumping them around the map allday everyday, defeats the purpose of a black ops taking a gate

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The Troll Bridge
#16 - 2015-02-20 16:05:13 UTC
You were compensated for JDC skill with the ability for caps to use gates.





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Kiandoshia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2015-02-20 16:14:41 UTC
Train for jump freighters. Suddenly JDC5 makes sense again.
Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#18 - 2015-02-20 16:22:59 UTC
No.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#19 - 2015-02-20 16:25:23 UTC
BoomBoss wrote:
6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.

When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this?



Compensation? Talk to Obama. As far as I know Hilmar isn't going to hand any out. Your JDC 5 is just as good as my JDC 5. If you hadn't trained it, you'd be able to jump even less far.

Also, I think the jump fatigue timer should be increased a little more.
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2015-02-20 16:28:07 UTC
BoomBoss wrote:
[quote=Elenahina]
What value? What used to take maybe an hour takes days now. Getting solo with a carrier back to deep nul is just not possible. So, you tell me what value?


The same value it had before - your jump range is longer than the native jump range of the ship. It also has the same value to you as it has to everyone else in the game. There's no case for compensation here.

See, I knew when they opened that pandora's box, it was going to cause issues like this. Now, anytime CCP makes a skill change someone doesn't like, they scream about compensation.

The game evolves. Deal with it, or quit. But for God's sake, quit whining like a kid that dropped his ice cream.

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