EVE General Discussion

Clone cost removal made good sense, implant removal doesn't.

just got back from a long vacation only to read this:

I've been predicting this 'next step' for ages now.

CCP won't be happy until we have wow in space.

If I wanted to play WOW I would just play WOW or SWTOR, but you know what? WOW/SWTOR is for pussies, there's no risk, and no penalty for death and dying. If you go into battle you risk nothing.

Pretty soon stations will be nothing more than a COD Respawn point.

That's not the eve I fell in love with.

Why not wait to be angry until you see what's announced? Not even the game design team know what changes they plan to make with this. Don't interpret my making a case for the other side as an announcement that something specific is happening.

For what its worth, I think your comments have been a valuable part of the conversation.

CCP is doing a good job and there only so many hr you can do the stuff, we are only the paying people more like the bar customers waiting for the drinks that we paid good money for, as CCP is eve game to change what they see fit for best of evey other player,

Oh boy, no attributes, no learning implants? I really hope this idea develops.
Frankly I think I had more fun before knowing about them... figuring out a plan in evemon can be entertaining, but having a suboptimal remap because you don't want to be locked trainining int/mem forever just feels bad.

The concerning part in my opinion is replacing that isk sink; most likely low/mid-grade pirate sets will see more use but I doubt that alone makes up for it.

Depends, although initially it looks like a bad idea. Would it involve a debuff of attribute effects from pirate implant sets? Also, how low would you need to make the price point to agree with the current infinitely low / almost zero cost of attribute implants over time if you never undock or risk them.

If it's 2.5 million ISK per attribute at +5 per week, then okay. I would be agreeable with effectively buying another +5 implant per attribute, per year. But not more than that. Though regardless of the cost, moving a one-time cost to a recurring cost is just painful.

Maybe it's confirmation bias, but I really dislike that idea. I dislike it as much as med clone costs.

CCP Karkur is very clear in the November o7 show, in stating the extended skill queue enables some things which she couldn't discuss. So there is a reason for it, but it's secret. or something.

If the cost was made nil after the initial investment, I would be ok with a new requirement of logging in just to activate a booster. Perhaps if the boosters were generated passively like research agents, who you visit occasionally.

Sabriz is a candidate, not an actual CSM. make sure to go and vote

Walking in stations?

DUST? Or well it got laser headshot, so I guess ... Legion?

I have to agree with the people who thinks this is a bad idea.

The only thing removing implant does is making EVE more blend. Everything in eve is about risk/reward. Once you start removing those parts you end up with battlefield in space.

Sure you may have a few new players that jump in for a few months but they will be bored anyway and quit.
Also someone explain why learning implants are different from lets say a high grade slave set. You could argue that slave set should be removed since its only gives rich old people an advantage.

You don’t have to use implants, that’s your choice, again with the same argument you could take away pirate faction ships, or at least the cost since that sure would make more people undock in their pirate ships.

Please don’t make this into battlefield in space (everyone is the same, death means nothing, you can jump into a fight 2 minutes after you get into the game)