EVE General Discussion

where the system looks like a normal mail client, but is designed to allow someone you didn't expect to have access to your information? no, when someone encounters something familiar, they'll assume it has the same qualities as what they're familiar with

that's why this in particular needs to be explained properly

lol, I don't think it's everyone else with comprehension problems here.After time has passed, you've gotten up from your computer and thought about it for a while, You'll realize your in the wrong here, you fell into an enlargement trap (it happens to all of us).

You are basically defending indefensible stupidity on the part of users of video game software (not at all unlike the dumb people who put personal info on face book or teens who 'sext' each other and expect that to be 'private'). I'm sorry, but it's obvious to everyone who can think clearly, this is a video game, it's email is even less secure than real email, and you should have known that before using it (6 years prior if we're talking about the OP).

I'm sorry, i can't understand what you're saying, you're providing this point of view, so provider.

make it so i can understand

See, you're clinging to nonsense. Like I said, you're smarter than this, you're probably just haivng a bad day.

As I said, unless the user FORGOT they logged in to EVE of EVE-gate to use evemail (due to some medical condition lol), there is no excuse for not knowing, and CCP hasn't done anything wrong.

People like you are why we live in this sue happy world btw.

That's exactly my point. The mail system in every other online game I have ever come across works exactly as you'd expect. It is secure as long a. No one gains access to my account b. No one gains access to the recipients account and c. No one gains access to the data stored on the servers of the game operator. That is a security level I am happy enough to share certain personal information under (eg. my real name, my email address or possibly my mobile phone number).

My problem is with Eve's in game mail system being several steps less secure than it first appears to be and not explicitly telling you about it.

There is no reason for a new player to think that Eve-mail is any less secure than the mail system in any other game, or their facebook or twitter accounts and nowhere are they told it is. That is the problem.

It's not a problem if you do the smart thing and treat ALL email as if it wasn't secure.

Somehow, expecting people to be smart about the internet (or life, or playing EVE) is considered being mean and uncaring lol.

I knew that commander save-the children would arrive eventually

one-time suppressable info message with a link to api info on the first time eve-mail is opened.

the main issue is the idea that someone other than the recipient can access the mail without the recipient sharing the contents directly, and that it's plausible for an average user to believe that evemail is reasonably secure from third parties (assuming a basic degree of trust between the sender and the service provider)

providing additional info on a game mechanic in this manner i wouldn't usually advocate, but it's also plausible the average user'll mail something personal to a friend or something if they're in the belief that third-party users wouldn't have access. the plausible real-life link is why it's partially on the service provider to ensure as far as is practical that the user is aware of the true functions of the mail service

i don't think anything more than a warning message is practical without causing disruption to others. at least, i can't think of anything vOv

Upon seeing Lucas Kell agree with me I have discovered that i am wrong (must be if Lucas agrees) and surrender peacefully to Benny Ohu in exchange for protect from commander Save'Em Kell!!!

The security of any form of electronic communication whether it be e-mail, eve-mail, eve-chat or any other chats is bordering close to none.

With very few and special exceptions everything you type, say or display on the Internet is about as secure as a postcard, with the possible addition of a padlock on a siblings diary that can be picked with a paper clip.

If you want security, apply it _outside_ the channel, encrypt locally, use AAA pinpads and so on.

But most of all, ponder what information your are willing to share, with whom and over what channel.

Never ask why someone else isn't protecting your privacy if you can't be arsed to keep those 3 questions in your head before transmitting.

Information Security isn't about technology or corporate rules, it's a process that starts in the mind of every single user.