Player Features and Ideas Discussion

There are many players who never or very rarely venture out of high security space. One reason may be that the hisec/losec boundary is such a steep transition in risk; an unprovoked PvP attack in 0.5 is suicide due to CONCORD protection, but in 0.4 there is no CONCORD response at all. At the same time, 0.4 space offers only slightly better rewards than 0.5.

The situation might be improved by a more gradual scale of CONCORD response, such as:

High Security (0.7 to 1.0): a CONCORD spawn of two cruisers and one battleship respond to any illegal attack in 6-10 seconds, depending on system security status. If the attacker evades destruction of their ship by CONCORD, it is considered an exploit. (same as current rules)

Medium Security (0.4 to 0.6): CONCORD will respond to illegal aggression in 15-25 seconds, depending on security status, but only if the defender has not returned fire. The CONCORD spawn has two cruisers only, they do not warp scramble, and they will press their attack on the aggressor only while the defender remains on grid and has not returned fire. It is NOT considered an exploit for the aggressor to avoid ship destruction in these systems.

Low Security (0.1 to 0.3): CONCORD will respond to illegal aggression in 30-60 seconds, depending on security status, but only if the defender has not returned fire, and only in the vicinity of stargates and stations. The spawn has only one cruiser, it does not warp scramble, and will press its attack only while the defender remains on grid and has not returned fire. It is NOT considered an exploit for the aggressor to avoid ship destruction in these systems.

Popup warnings would appear at both the high-medium and medium-low boundaries, explaining the change in CONCORD protection in the destination system.

EDIT: no CONCORD warp scramble in medium/low security systems

Yes, but it also severely nerfs CONCORD in much of high sec.

Please. You've merely move a few goal posts up to .6 and looked at nerfing play styles in low sec.

We do NOT need more NPC hand holding. It's detrimental to player interaction.

IDK everyone who currently lives in .5-.6 would have to move up to 1.0-.7 i'm sure that would cause a bit more interaction right?

Then you believe there can be no middle ground between these extremes?

Yes ganking is player interaction, but we already have that in high. This change does nothing but screw over low and increase ganking in high. But not in a good way.

Concord is a necessary evil in high sec. It should remain there only.

That doesn't sound so terrible. It would take more effort to set up an interdiction in "medium sec" than it does currently to set up a gate camp in low sec, and the high sec residents would have more incentive to respond with a fleet of their own, or provide their freighters and bowheads with a strong combat escort. Isn't that the kind of game we want?

No. You are inventing from whole cloth the legions of organized high sec players who want to provide huge escorts to freighters and mission runners large enough to prevent people from shitting all over all freight traffic.

If they had that level of cooperation on that scale, THEY WOULDN'T BE IN HIGHSEC.

No, what would happen is groups like Marmite or nullsec daytrippers would camp .5 and .6 systems and trash everything that moved, until all highsec activity was clustered around the very upper end of the scale. The highsec economy would collapse, and it would become a massive pain in the ass to do anything, as you couldn't pass through .5 or .6 space without a massive escort, and hiring people to escort you around would remove any profits.

Oh and friends? Don't count on them. Escorting freighters over long distances is about the most boring activity in the game, up to and above solo highsec mining.

Highsec players don't magically organize into groups of players willing to escort freighters around with 30 man support fleets.

You know what they do when subjected to massive oppression? They Quit.

this isn't true me and my friends are gunna get together and start an alliance that ganks gankers and provides mining and freighter escorts trust me in just a few months CODE will just give up




sounds like that guy needs to learn what a web is and how to scout

Congratulations, you've just killed EvE.

So all of us who go into FW space looking for fights - We will get popped for engaging in fights? I already have to deal with penalties for being the aggressor on gates and stations, let alone security status hits. Now, if I want to be successful - all I have to do is tank my ship, get someone to attack me and watch them die? That sure sounds like fun.

Yes there can be a greater disparity between the security status levels, however - this idea will literally ruin Lowsec on all levels.