EVE General Discussion

I just read all your mails and you really have nothing to worry about. That rash should clear up in a week.

That's interesting, as nobody CCP warned me that full APIs would compromise my privacy if I as much as sent a evemail to someone and that someone intended to join a player corporation and provided a full API.

Let's say that for some reason, I trust someone and evemail him some personal data, and that someone joins a corporation unaware of what a full API does mean to any personal data being shared through CCP's services...

I really wonder now whether CCP warns of that, somewhere.

Is a "pretty common knowledge" which I ignored until just 20 minutes ago, after playing the game for most of 6 years and never needing to give a full API to anyone. Now, I don't know whether I ever said anything personal on evemail, and also don't know if that is being warned anywhere by CCP.

But I am upset that such a delicate matter is just left to be learned by chance. I never wrote evemail thinking that every last recruiter in EVE could read them.

As you yourself say, you ignored the issue. That's not the same as it being any kind of deep dirty secret.

Anyway, now you've asked about something you were concerned about, you've found out the information you needed, and you can act on your knowledge.

Be careful that this doesn't set some kind of precedent you might later come to regret.

so it's everyones fault that you decided to read feck all over the last 6 years.

you gave your full api key to poeple and couldn't be bothered asking why they need it.
this is standard stuff in EVE recruitment, infact checks into players go a lot deeper than that. stop acting like you didn't know, i refuse to believe this shite.

My standard rule of thumb is pretty simple - if you don't want other people to know something, don't write it down. If you write it down, chances are, it will come back to bite you at some point.

And let's be honest, it's not like Eve Mail was ever secret - the GMs can read them as can, I expect, the database team, the developers, and anyone else who has a modicum of access to anything at all at CCP. They were never private to begin with - just like your email and your IM's and your facebook messages.

If you actually sat back and thought about all the people who have access to the items you put online, you'd never post anything again.

Our network engineers could, in theory, read this post I am writing, as soon as I hit send, and it gets bounced through the company proxy server.

If you just assume that anything you post anywhere on the internet will be readable by everyone in the world and will never ever get totally deleted, you'd make smarter decisions about this stuff.

Just like with real emails, they're possibly readable by a slew of routers that the message passes through, and by the NSA, and your recipient friend has a permanent copy and can fully post all your private info and photos on the internets for everyone to see.

So, do not send private information through the in-game email.

If you have, already, delete it, and ask your friend to delete it. He/she probably will, if they're your friend.

And if they don't, a bunch of recruiters and directors, who are probably so swamped by join requests and corporate drama issues that they don't even have time to eat, may see your in-game mail and disregard it. They're typically looking for signs that you're a spy, corp thief, or awoxer, really, and probably won't even care to read whatever private info you've disclosed.

having 'no expectation of privacy' regarding any info you send through the service is somewhere in the tos or eula

few people read those, and i don't consider it entirely their fault if they're ignorant of the information shared by the api

i knew about the api and was still surprised when one of my mails turned up on a blog

nah

I'm not much of a fan of it.

Sure, over time I have discussed personal matters with friends in EVE, I often speak of family or personal goings-on in the forums threads I hang out in, and in mails I often go deeper into it with friends I trust. Like my dad's recent illness or troubles at work.

RL stuff aside, as an RP'er it's also not unusual for me to send or receive mails of a.... err, personal nature

Personal to my character, that is.

I've had comments from leadership in prior corps about the contents of my inbox lmao, and as I mentioned in my corp's channel just recently in fact, if a complete non-RPer looked into my inbox they would prolly freak the **** out.

So yeah, these days I never give full API access. You'll get my character details, wallet and contacts but that's about it.