EVE General Discussion

The only thing I hate about implants is losing a pod in 0.0 and having to fly back to Jita for a new set....especially the CA-1 and CA-2 implants.

for me, that also applies to ships ... (unless I settle for a sh*t local ship) ... so, the same.

If that implies the training time for all the skills is reduced significantly and you can still plug hardwired implants I could be ok about it. Otherwise, reset CSM. Tia.

If your goal is to fly small ships you don't need expensive implants because all necessary skills are low training time. As for live in null, without them you will train as fast as now. What's the point of removing them? There's a polish idiom for that behaviour - gardner dog- if i can't have it nobody can. Also stop shooting at your own knees. You don't want to use learing implants, you won't use hirdwires beacuse sometimes you can live for 5 minutes.

Why you guys are focused on SP so much? SP have nothing to do with pvp. It's relic from xp system (i have more xp gained on my char i'm better at something - wrong). My main have around 35 mil SP now. I have zero experience in pvp, if i jump in combat i have no idea what to do. Player with 5 mil SP would propably decorate gate with my guts.
Pod is just a tool not a purpose.

The better trained I am, the better I am able to accomplish my goals - the SP I accrue improves my ability to refine materials, research blueprints, manufacture and invent ships and modules etc. My science skill levels unlock access to research agents which expands the range of datacores available to me and the rate at which I can earn research points to buy them for trade and invention of the T2 gear that PVPers use and lose in combat. From my perspective SP is not a worthless relic, but an essential part of the game. At the moment, there is no other mechanic within the game that will let me do all this,so the faster I can learn and accrue SP the better.

Sure, from manufacturing perspective SP are the most important thing, but you not using your pod the way pvpers do. You have a skill lvl treshold, you can't manufacture without certain skill level. Pvpers can pvp with lower skills and can get better in time. Worthless relic is thinking: i have more SP i'll be better at pvp. I'll buy titan char, fly a titan and win EvE. There is a lot talking about having options in EvE now, for me removing implants is decreasing them.

Whole discussion starting to be like: "i won't be using implants because i may lose it in fight, it's unfair because that way i'm learning slower than hisec carebear".

"i bought implants who cost too much, so i need to stay docked and not play the game. Remove implants from the game".


Use Evemon and look at the difference in training time implant does. A full set of +5 implant is +-20% faster than no implant. +4 aren't much slower than +5 and cost less (you can almost buy a full set of +4 for the price of a single +5). I'm still using +3 on all my 3 accounts (2 of them having 92 and 85m SP).

YOU made the choise of playing ships spinning in a station because YOU choose to spend a shitload of isk in your implants for learning skills faster. Yes, you will save quite some time using +5 over +4 or +3 in 4-500 days, but right now, you are not playing the game. Is it worth training skills faster if you aren't playing the game? I do not think so. You said you left the game because you had to stay docked. Yet, you are back and still doing the same thing?

What you are asking is the removal of implants because you've made the wrong choise. You can do L4 using a T1 BS with T1 guns. Yet, some players buy faction ships, faction guns, faction or deadspace mods because the extra DPS/tank make missionning faster/easier. A paladin does almost 400 more DPS than an abaddon. Almost 30% more DPS, but cost 5 time higher. 4 factions heat sink only add around 70DPS on a faction tachy nightmare VS T2 one, but cost nearly 115x more! You choose to spend more on your implants for faster learning like missionners spend more isk on faction mods for completing missions faster.

And anyway, if you go look at players doing PVP in LS, you will see they rarely lose their pod. It's all about choise and learning the game mechanics (you know...there is something called...jumpclone, spamming warp when you are in structure...).

Nope, but i wouldn't mind huging a bottle of whiskey

Speaking of having options, is 1 remap per month would be too much?

Sure sure, let me check the cost of hardwire implants. Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Small Projectile Turret SP-605 +5% buff to dmg, cheapest at 131 mil 06.02.2015.
For example: Memory Augmentation - Improved +5 attribute, 119 mil 06.02.2015
Sure, they will use hardwires...

Is it? Increased? Last time i saw graphic about pvping (fanfest i think) 10% of players were pvping. How much does it change since then?

well said ...