CSM Campaigns

The criticism raised has nothing to do with cheating or scamming, but actual quality of ideas presented and ability to follow through.

I've been on hiatus for a bit, but as soon as i heard Jayne was running for CSM i wanted to log in and show my support.

Jayne is one of the most intelligent and considerate people that ive had the good fortune of flying with. Whether it's educating new pilots on the ins and outs of combat or collaborating with existing CSM members or CCP Devs, you simply couldn't ask for a better representative for the EVE community.

Best of luck to you Jayne, I know you'll do a spectacular job.

+1 will vote.

I'm sorry to say that in light of today's discovery, I am unsure that these qualities are present in you. I was browsing through eve-kill, zkills and eventually evewho and I found your page: http://evewho.com/pilot/Jayne+Fillon

In it there's a picture from your twitter where you write "Seraph makes me extremely angry. There, I said it. I'm mad. F@#k you, Seraph, you worthless maggot." This raises a bit of concern for me as maturity is an important attribute for me as a voter but I want to give you a fair chance to explain. So my questions are:

1. Is that picture authentic? Did you actually refer to another player in those manners? It could be faked I understand so I'm asking you.

2. If that is you, is it proper conduct for a CSM to refer to a player in such a manner?

3. More importantly, again if the picture is true, can we expect that your anger issues will be resolved by the time you join the CSM or will it be a repeated issue?

I'm sorry I just don't see how the CSM would be effective under such conditions. Even you brought up compelling criticism toward other individuals with known anger issues such as Sort Dragon. How do you address the same criticism toward you?

You've made your point and I've told you that I don't agree. Restating it is neither going to help nor change my answer when neither of us has anything beyond our words and our opinions. Thankfully, I have experience in these kinds of communities, and you don't... but it's still my word against yours.

Also, of course I'm advocating for changes that are appealing to my NPSI base. That is the playstyle that I enjoy, and the people who play Eve in similar ways are the people that I specifically want to represent on the CSM. That's the point.

Well it isn't about whispering sweet nothings in people's ears. It's about maintaining your composure and not blowing your lid. It just surprised me that is all. I wonder what could illicit such an angry response (toward that player, not me i mean). You don't need to be so defensive with me, I'm simply not familiar with the issue.

I sent a pm!

Anyway back on topic. In your vision for NPSI will there be a chance for things similar to corp thefts and other fun shenanigans?

Swiftboat? I'm not familiar with the term. I did not mean to stumble into something I was not suppose to know about. I didn't mean any offense.

I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!

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Pardon me if I'm intruding on any discussions, and also for attempting to fight Jayne's battles in his own thread, but I strongly disagree with you. I've flown with NPSI groups like Spectre for the past few months, and I would agree with the fact that they're political entities, but they behave on an entirely different wavelength than the big coalitions like the CFC. As far as I can gather after flying in these fleets, the only clear goal NPSI fleets have is to generate content for anyone willing to take the time and put forth the effort of joining up for a fleet. Which is unlike big political entities like the CFC or N3, whose goals are to make money/control sov/etc. I'm not going to pretend like there is a 0% chance that Jayne could have some ulterior motives in his campaign, but coming from someone who understands these things to some extent I have trouble imagining what exactly those motives might be, if there even could be any.

Also your initial argument on NPSI communities evolving into only two power blocs is flawed as well. There is plenty of crossover that happens between the different NPSI channels, a la Spectre advertising for bomber fleets in the Bombers Bar channel or Spectre getting notified when an RvB Ganked event is starting. Not to mention that there is also crossover between public fleets with different goals. For example, recently Bombers Bar (a specialized PvP channel) and Warp to Me Incursions (a PvE channel) did a co-operative fleet. This kind of thing would be incredibly unlikely to happen amongst the big null blocs. I still have yet to find two competing NPSI/Public fleet channels that have bitter rivalries against each other, to the point where they have to send in spies to see what they're working towards. A more likely dystopian situation is that they would all clump into one group, which is also unlikely.

I agree that a lot of Jayne's points center around benefiting the NPSI community, but isn't that kinda the point of the CSM? To try and benefit the type of gameplay you enjoy the most? I'm not gonna play the fool and say helping the NPSI community carries as much weight as the need for the Sov rebalance or the need for changes to hisec, but I can directly see how these proposed changes would benefit the NPSI community, which is more than I can say for some proposals I've heard.