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Simple POS changes to increase POS battle

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Papa Django
Materials Harvesting Kombinat
#1 - 2015-02-03 10:02:17 UTC
In the idea to increase POS bashing interrest what do you think about theses 2 changes :

- SMA should use CPU. So when a POS comes to RF mode the owners cannot acces ships and self destruct or remove them.
- RF timer should be configured like POCO timers. The defenders should have the advantage to choose with precision when the RF mode will end.

Effects on theses 2 changes :
- POS bashing will be potentially a lot more lucrative -> more fight on POS
- Defender will be able to choose when to defend, so when RF timers come out they can defend it -> more fight on POS
Lugh Crow-Slave
#2 - 2015-02-03 10:09:06 UTC
Papa Django wrote:
In the idea to increase POS bashing interrest what do you think about theses 2 changes :

- SMA should use CPU. So when a POS comes to RF mode the owners cannot acces ships and self destruct or remove them.


so now in a WH the defenders have very little chance to defend their POS particularly small groups

Papa Django wrote:

- RF timer should be configured like POCO timers. The defenders should have the advantage to choose with precision when the RF mode will end.


and i now understand you know very little on how to manage a POS as they can already do this and with much more accuracy than a POCO
Papa Django
Materials Harvesting Kombinat
#3 - 2015-02-03 10:28:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Papa Django
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:

so now in a WH the defenders have very little chance to defend their POS particularly small groups


Because they cannot access their ships ? Yes, that's why POS bashing becomes lucrative with that proposal.
You could also log off with combat ships and store ships in KSpace stations.

[EDIT]
What about that :
- During RF mode, SMA should be unusable.
- When RF ends, SMA should be usable.
- Self destruct should be unusable inside FF.
[/EDIT]

The goal of this proposal is to makes POS attack lucrative and to incite people to fight to defend, not only to self destruct all the assets.

Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:

and i now understand you know very little on how to manage a POS as they can already do this and with much more accuracy than a POCO


I know how to set timer with stront, you have to remove stront manually before the RF mode start but you have to be online for that, that's the issue. If you have enough stront to stand 10 hours in RF by default, the timer will end 10 hours after RF mode starts. So everything depends on the datetime when the RF mode starts and your POS may end RF mode in a bad TZ for defenders.
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#4 - 2015-02-03 11:49:07 UTC
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Jezza McWaffle
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#5 - 2015-02-03 11:58:18 UTC
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Repo Industries
#6 - 2015-02-03 14:51:22 UTC
You idea gives incentives to large groups to lump up on small groups. Small groups don't man their POS 23/7. Figure out when no one is online and RF their tower. All stuff is locked away.

Locking SMA leaves me to defend my tower in whatever ship I happen to log off in and that's it. I'd need a crystal ball and all of my small corp to log off in the pre assumed optimal defense fleet. Your idea would be OK w/ me, but ONLY IF the attacking force was required to eve mail me their entire fleet comp and their attacking time 2 days in advance.

Here's the thing. The folks that are SDing their crap right in front of you bought that crap. It's theirs. They can do what they want with it.

Your changes would pretty much leave 5 or 6 large corp/alliances in wh space. It wouldn't make sense for most folks to have a POS there. TBH, it would pretty much make even a large wh corp easy pickings. Cloak a guy in system to watch what they log off in. Bring the counter fleet and enough dreads to lock down their sma quickly. Ball game over.

No one likes to watch SD from the outside of an RF tower. If there was a reasonable fix that didn't break other aspects of POS living, then it probably would have been done long ago.

Papa Django
Materials Harvesting Kombinat
#7 - 2015-02-03 15:16:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Papa Django
You are right, my first proposal is too extreme.

What about that :
- During RF mode, SMA should be unusable.
- When RF ends, SMA should be usable.
- Self destruct should be unusable inside FF.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#8 - 2015-02-03 16:06:12 UTC
It's my stuff. If I want to pee down your air hose by blowing it up in front of your eyes, then I should be able to do it.

I've only been on the giving end of POS bashes, and yeah it irritates me to see the SD stuff, but that's eve.