CSM Campaigns

First, this is just completely untrue. You can't prove these accusations as much as I can't prove them to be false, so I'm going to move on. It's true I was busier during the months of October and November than usual with a difficult work cycle IRL, but I sacrificed a lot of other things in order to stay active within the corp - including having to stop writing for TheMittani.com.

Ha, and you're accusing me of twisting my words?

First, and I'm not sure how this is relevant in anyway, but the Titan was not funded with stolen assets.

Second, "compensated appropriately" is a perfectly apt description. The towers were purchased using corp ISK, they were managed using corp resources, and when they were lost I sent Doom >8B ISK to cover the next month's lost profits anyway. I don't know how much you thought those towers were worth, but y'all are acting like I stole my Titan from you.

Third, DOTLAN doesn't show that at all - you're either lying, or you didn't actually look. If you're ignoring the fact that we were the third major corp to depart the alliance, maybe this would be almost correct. You're still down more than 100 members from when RNEST and DBOYS were apart of the Alliance, and the second largest corporation in your alliance is currently in a completely different timezone.

Fourth, if you're going to quote killboard stats, you best make sure you don't pick and choose which ones you're quoting. You say that your "ISK Killed" has increased from last month - and to my surprise, it has. Conveniently, this is thanks to a Titan kill that your alliance managed to whore on during one of my NPSI fleets on January 3rd. Such sweet sweet irony.... but anyway, since we're picking and choosing killboard stats, let me pick one that is not smurfed so easily: Ships killed.

Not only is this number down by more than 60% since November, but your alliance has scored half as many kills as my corporation during the month of January alone. Yet DOTLAN, which you so proudly point out, shows you have more than triple our numbers. I hope you're enjoying it there Hair Loss - we weren't.

Lastly, you used all of that to try and claim that I won't share "true information" with the players or the developers....

I feel like a broken record - if you actually wanted an answer to this question, you could have read my answer the last three or four times it was asked in slightly different ways. In the end, no matter what I say you're neither going to believe me, nor change your mind.

You're not apart of the command team for Spectre Fleet, so I have no idea how you would know this one way or another. As for never FC'ing for Spectre Fleet, this is provably - and laughably - false... hell, I was one of the FC's during that fleet where your alliance managed to get on a Titan kill.

As for the nullsec freeport, you're going to need a citation or two. Freeporting a region of nullsec is something that I've always wanted to do, but never actively attempted or invested effort into. Are you trying to say that someone else (Coelomate) accomplishing something that I've wanted to do discredits me for not having done it myself? I'm not understanding what you're trying to say here. PFR acted completely independent, and their actions occurred during a time when our Corporation was apart of a certain alliance in the Placid region....

What?? Is it so crazy for the CFC to support someone outside of their political boundaries simply because they think it would be good for the game?! I have literally no idea how you immagine Nonnak played into that. My only connection to the CFC is through writing for them on TheMittani.com, where I assume they got to know me and liked what I had to say during my articles regarding the state of the game and combat mechanics.

I have a poor relationship with a very vocal minority, so it would seem.
As for being inclusive and even-tempered when dealing with others.... I'm answering you, aren't I?

I know you have been fighting off some accusations as of the last couple of replies from multiple people, and I am sorry to have to ask you another tough question.......but I feel its my responsibility....

Do you support the addition hats into eve?

This is one of my platform's key points and It's important I know your stance.

I'm getting really tired about answering the same questions over and over again regarding my corporation's departure from Overload Everything. So from here on, I'm not going to answer those questions in this thread - if you ask something that has already been answered I'll send you an evemail including the details of where you can go to read my reply. If you rehash an accusation that I've already fielded during the course of this thread, I'm also going to ignore you. I don't care if you choose not to believe what I've written, that's your choice, just know that asking it again will not receive a different answer.

Questions related to the CSM are, as always, welcomed.

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Lucas,

If you can get past your siege mentality (GRR GOONS all day everyday) you will notice I was actually in your alliance at one point. I also never said anything about being tied to goons being a negative. I asked a question which I know a lot of people wanted to know the answer to.

Oops. Forgot about this question. Sorry!

What do I think will improve new player retention?

Well, I'm going to make this a two part answer. First, the most important thing that CCP can do to improve new player retention is to keep CCP Rise (and his team) working on tutorial and NPE overhaul, as he presented at Eve Vegas. Link Here. His presentation went in depth into player testing with gamers who had no previous experience in Eve, and discussed what players were able to accomplish and what they got hung up on while trying to learn the game. I won't bother recounting the entire presentation, but it really was quite fantastic. I agreed with everything that was said and am really excited to see some of these changes come into effect. If you haven't seen it, you should really give it a watch.... or just go to Eve Vegas. :P

Okay, since I assume I can't just defer my answer to the work of a current CCP dev, I'll include a bonus thought regarding a facet of the NPE that wasn't covered in CCP Rise's presentation at Eve Vegas. Although the high-level UI was discussed, I think that the default overview is something that really is in desperate need of a overhaul. CCP Karkur has done a great job in recent months of patching the otherwise dysfunctional system with sharable overviews, but the default overviews given to a new player are absolutely atrocious. A single tab literally labelled "default" with no information presented regarding how to customize your overview, let alone that you can customize them in the first place.

Knowing what's in space is important, that much is obvious. Being able to identify the important overview items quickly makes PvE a lot easier, and makes PvP at least viable. The default overview makes playing this game really hard - way harder than it has to be - and takes a non-insignificant amount of in game knowledge to be able to customize it appropriately. I know this because I've built my own custom overview packs in the past, and to truly customize your overview to a point where you can actually see what's around you in space requires a working knowledge of XML, or more recently, YAML. There is zero reason, and zero excuse, why CCP can't provide a functional default overview that contains at the very least multiple streamlined tabs.

I can only imagine how hard it is for new players to see the beauty of this game when they're looking at it through coke-bottle glasses.

Updating the overview is actually not a terrible idea. Although not a unique suggested you nonetheless deserve credit for at least pointing it out. The possibility to share overviews in game was one of the best features that was added. Anyway "your" idea here while decent lays in stark contrast with your "club" idea and i'll show you exactly where things go bad.



Hm ok, I can follow a bit. But then i'm asking myself "isn't this just a mailing list and a channel?" I mean there could be a way that you can click "join club: Boogy Bombers" and automatically be added to the mailing list and chat I suppose. But it's really not that hard to just join a mailing list and a chat. What exactly do you get for joining a "club?" Isn't this just adding formality to a group that's key appeal is the informality of it all?

Here's where our difference in mentality lies. We can agree that there were public fleet type organizations in the form of Agony and RvB. However Bombers Bar is really what kicked off the NPSI renaissance. The group more or less formed together in March/April of 2012. FCs such as Temp, Epoc, Abiss, Eatsbabies, myself and others were working with fleets between 7 to 12 people. It was a big deal when Bombers Bar channel broke 50 people. So everything was very informal, very grass roots and still fairly small.

It wouldn't be until BB migrated from the north (M-O and EC-P8R) in the summer of 2012 to the south (HED-GP) that you would see BB breaking 100 people in channel. It was during this time that we blew up with our exploits being publicized through Eve media such as EN24. Fleets were 20-40 people on a nightly basis. We were ganking the HED-GP Jump bridge, we were blowing up TEST fleets in Delve, then CFC fleets in Tribute. We were everywhere.

With growth came certain individuals that may have had the best intentions but unfortunately politicized the atmosphere. We had councils, voting, economics. It really took away from the NPSI concept and turned a lot of the original founding members away including myself.

It was just around this time (late 2012) IIRC that you even became involved with Bombers Bar. So what you saw was an entity that was no longer the grass roots form of NPSI. You found a highly political and some would say, corrupt, entity that resembled a perverted version of what NPSI was meant to be. You never had the "grass roots" experience to know any different as you directly piggybacked off of Bombers Bar.

Most of 2013 you were involved in the "political" version of BB culminating in the "Redeemer Awox of Temp" event, and the coup within Bombers Bar and true foundation of Spectre Fleet. I never really took much issue with this as Venga (the parent corp of bb) was the entity that allowed such gross misconduct to occur. (If you would have been a little smarter about things, I'd probably would have helped you do a better job of it. Unfortunately...the company you keep gives such great advice... )Their CEO was always more interested in ratting than being an actual CEO. Long time members such as Temp and Epoc have finally left as well.

So TLDR is you don't have any concept of what "true NPSI" is because you're initial experience with it was a perverse politicized version of it, not the original. Your idea of "clubs" is simply the continued reasoning you follow based on that experience. The whole concept is anti-NPSI.



Is there even a demand to hide people's involvement in NPSI? So here's an idea nobody even really asked for.



So what is the point? What does this give you over a mailing list and a chat? Again just introducing structure for a concept that thrives on being more or less structureless.



You already have all of that...

Will your club mechanic be working as intended when the inevitable happens and there's really only 2 large npsi groups and their assorted lackeys A la goons vs. N3 ?

History repeats itself friendo. And to claim that npsi groups are somehow immune to the same politick thAt rules eve today by virtue of their rules of engagementis the height of folly

You seem to think that npsi fleets are some ephemeral thing that doesn't play by the same rules as everyone else. Even in its current form they are far from it and if this CSM candidates ideas are put into practice then they add an entirely new layer of beauracracy and efficacy than they currently have.

What im saying is if you add mechanics similar to the ones already in game what will keep what has already happened from happening again with more bullshit heaped on top?

Challenge mode: you can't use 'because we're npsi' as a reason