Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Duel bait in Hek, Rens, Jita, Amarr, etc all you want. A least there peeps tend to have a couple days behind them and are old enough to start learning the hard way. It's despicable to do so in Noob systems. I've sat there and watched it be done on my high sec alts. I think that is the only time I've reported anyone.

Besides, no real awoxer goes around looking for new players to blow them up. They're only in it for the shiny kills.

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ye this was 5 years ago, im not sure if jihadsquad is still infiltrating corps to do this

Doesn't work for awoxxing. No flags happen. RR sits behind concord.

New players are not the target of awoxing. I collected all the highsec awoxing kills as I described in the GD thread and you can see the average age of an awox victim is over three years in the game. Only a handful of new players get caught up in awoxes which makes sense as you are after juicier targets if you go to the trouble of training a spy and infiltrating a corp.

This change only makes it safer for these established players with assets, and does nothing for new players that don't even know what awoxing is. Hopefully it makes these established corps more willing to take on new players, but it will also increase the number of failcorps and scam corps trying to attract new players for tax farming.

It's not clear to me that this change helps new players at all.

It was a good fix to a dumb rule. The switch to turn it on/off removes the only hesitation I had because of the effect a blanket rules would have on corp free-for-alls and RvB.

Nothing I have read, here, has made me think otherwise but I will follow this thread looking for diamonds in the mud.

As to a tax to have it on? No. I would be willing to consider having a tax or fee everytime you want to CHANGE the settingt excluding the first time when it is set.

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Last time I checked, the most famous awox in a while was against JT Clone Ares in stealing his alliance. Actually this is always the case. Pick any time period, the top stories on awoxing are never blowing up a corp member in highsec.

This doesnt change anything except forcing pusses to take some risk while shooting corp member ships. But like eveyr other group of sissies, they whine to CCP instead of dealing with the change. I know guys, having some ACTUAL risk while shooting someone, it sounds all scary and stuff. Deal with it.

Why does it help new players? Because it makes it far far easier for them to be accepted into a corp.

If you do even basic observation, it's usually not too hard to spot the real noobs from the pretenders.

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Any arbitrary restriction placed on Eve is bad. This whole 'no capitals in high sec' restriction is stupid, to pick one. You can have capitals in other Empire space(Low sec is still empire space), but after .4 Empire magically says 'nope can't do that here!'? How arbitrary, and nonsensical. Now you're suggesting implementing another arbitrary restriction of magically not being able to shoot corp members because of a tickbox somewhere that some CEO or director can arbitrarily change at whim? That isn't exploitable at all....

If you're going to do it, at least do it right. Make it a setting in each individual's corporation window, that THEY have to turn on or off. A responsible recruiter will then make sure all his noobs shut it off as soon as they join, and the Darwinism of the less than intelligent can carry on blissfully.


To make that not arbitrary: A couple of dudes are out having a shooting contest at one of the dude's farm, so they have plenty of room and no danger to neighbors. While they're having a friendly contest, they're both happy with the arrangement. or they decide to have a boxing match, whatever. But when one of them get's angry, the police don't just magically show up. The other dude has to call and say 'Hey, I don't want this going on here, please stop it.' So you can flip your personal allow corp friendly fire switch on when you want to tank test, corp free for all, etc, but if you forget to turn it off later, someone can't do it for you. You have to call the police and say 'Help!'

This only works once and there is almost always something that you can use to tell its an alt. It's just a matter of if people are actually going to put in the effort to protect their corpmates.

The other problem I have with this change and the people saying its a good thing are people that have never tried both sides.
I have been on both sides. I have been awoxed and have awoxed and the community for it is great and very supportive.
I haven't done it since the last time I played but I don't understand how people with no idea about the playstyle.
CCP has given people all the tools they need and now people need to get off their ass and protect their corps from awoxing or just pay some tax so that since they have no risk anymore they have less reward.

Make intra-corp PvP trigger a LE or Suspect timer. That way the 'invincible' untanked logi can now be shot at and all you dumb ******* highsec pub shitlords can go back to mining or grinding l4s or whatever you do, instead of trying to **** on an actual interesting form of emergent content.