EVE General Discussion

Try using a covert ops instead of a heron with a proto cloak.

The problem is, is that I am currently training up my scanning skills. Would prioritizing a buzzard and getting a cov ops cloak be a more beneficial skill training pattern?

One of my fears of flying a buzzard or astero with a more expensive but better cloak is that I die so often, I will just lose money more rapidly until I learn to, well, not get killed. Or will the cov ops cloak fix everything (for the most part) as long as there are a minimal amount of human error.

In answer to your original question. You are unlucky, being stupid and careless. I wish I could say I hate to be the one to break it to you, but you know that isn't true.

If you mean the loss to the Legion. A legion is NOT a logistics ship, it is a T3 strategic cruiser, this one likely designed to kill people like you (cloaky fitted to sneak up on you).

Also. Yes, go for a T2 frigate with covert cloak, so you can warp cloaked, it's much safer. Now, he will exactly know when you are coming from D-scan.

Also, if you know someone is in system...look up his killboard and check his M.O.
If you see lots of exploration ship kills, expect him to camp the sites you just scanned and move to a different system.



You are playing the game wrong...if you are not having fun playing. Don't think losing ships is a sign of playing wrong. As long as you are having fun, you are doing it right.

The losses, well they will happen. It's a combination of bad luck, not having a lot of player skill cause you are new and maybe a slight bit of stupidity from your end (I don't mean you are stupid, but that occasionally, you can make stupid decisions. And everybody does that, even veterans. I've seen veterans engage an obvious bait ship and then lose their ship...which, IMO is a stupid decision if you fully understand that you take on a bait ship).

Hmm, i die a lot because of carelessness and stupidity.

Last Time i flew into a bubblecamp and then i trief to burn back to the Gate.
I Would have made it, if i hadn t the idea to Sensor scramble on of those guys....

Working in low sec requires a set of skills that you don't train in the skills window. It also requires a level of paranoia. Its not a bad thing if someone is really after you.

First if you ever see someone cloak in a system you are working then consider moving on. They cannot be tracked and so represent too high a risk. Essentially you should assume the site you are going to has already been scanned and they know where you are going to be. Wait until they leave or leave yourself. The last option though has the problem of them following you around.

Next, prototype and improved cloaks are not a combat evasion. Do not use them in a fight. They are for lurking and hiding in safespots or tactical positions when people cannot guess your location, If you warped into a plex and saw someone, then tried to cloak as a defence then that is the thing you are doing wrong. Those cloaks make your movement under 50m/s. That means the enemy only has to charge your last known position to decloak you because you wont move far enough. your first reaction on finding someone in a plex should be to warp away. Now a covert ops frigate or Astero will make this easier as you can cloak while warping [with a covert ops cloak] and thus reduce the chance he scrambles you. However if he is inside 2000m then you have to just run.

If you work a region often then you need to do some preparation. Create tacticals. These are bookmarks 250-300km from gates and stations. This allows you to warp to a tactical and check out a gate/station and then still be able to warp to it. This is essential in Null sec due to bubbles but still useful everywhere else. Other special bookmarks to make are Safespots, Escapes and Safedocks. I'll send you the mail I send my recruits on this topic.

Something you are going to need to practice is getting your pod out. There is no real reason to lose a pod in empire. If you are in a player corp you can actually practice this with a few rookie ships. Its worth the time. When your ship dies you need to know what to do and do it at the right time. Hesitating is what gets you killed. I sent you another mail.

The last hint I'll give you is don't get tunnel vision. Explorers are often focused on something like a hack or a scan or even a web page about the site. If you aren't wanting local, d-scan and the overview all the time you will die more often. You need to learn to multitask.

Thanks for all your help and advice guys. I'll defiantly apply as much as I can in the future. You're all legends. :D

Obviously the core concept of lowsec space.

Whenever you fly in low sec, assume that every single one you see in local will want to kill you if they get the chance.
We are bastards that way i know But you seem like a damn good sport about dying.
Allways keep d-scan going when you see someone in local. You will learn to use that d-scan so ofte that you in the end cant fly through high sec without hitting d-scan every now and then (trust me on this, cause i do it all the time, and i cant help it, its a automatic thing now).

Get in touch if you want and ill help u out with advice if i can.

Check ncq&a, we generally treat nubies well when they have a good attitude.
this guy does.

Mewling whingers get other people killed, and the troll, always the troll.