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D-scan immunity addition. Ee gads
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Krops Vont
#1 - 2014-12-29 04:32:42 UTC
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Arla Sarain wrote:
Wouldn't mind the D-SCAN immunity.

If the capacitor stayed at zero, like reducing your signature in Elite: Dangerous by powering everything down and never being seen.





Why do other games make better choices?


Enable the ability to be undetected by powering off all modules, and remove capacitor.

yay? nay?

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Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#2 - 2014-12-29 04:36:22 UTC
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Daddy other games do it differently and they are more pleb tier so dumb people can play them, why aren't we like others daddy?

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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-12-29 06:04:24 UTC
Arya Regnar wrote:
Quote:
Daddy other games do it differently and they are more pleb tier so dumb people can play them, why aren't we like others daddy?

Roll

Care to explain yourself?

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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#4 - 2014-12-29 10:02:55 UTC
So basically you mean like using a cloak.....
Tragot Gomndor
Three Sword Inc
#5 - 2014-12-29 10:39:23 UTC
That feature is actually going offline. Best cloak ever.

NONONONONONO TO CAPS IN HIGHSEC NO
Arla Sarain
#6 - 2014-12-29 10:55:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Arla Sarain
Arya Regnar wrote:
Quote:
Daddy other games do it differently and they are more pleb tier so dumb people can play them, why aren't we like others daddy?

Roll

Just cos a game is not EVE Online doesn't mean its pleb tier and watered down for "dumb people" to play it.
Get out of your own ***.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2014-12-29 12:30:49 UTC
Krops Vont wrote:
Lets
Arla Sarain wrote:
Wouldn't mind the D-SCAN immunity.

If the capacitor stayed at zero, like reducing your signature in Elite: Dangerous by powering everything down and never being seen.





Why do other games make better choices?


Enable the ability to be undetected by powering off all modules, and remove capacitor.

yay? nay?



Is there even one single situation in the entire game where this would not be absolutely useless?
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2014-12-29 12:45:06 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Is there even one single situation in the entire game where this would not be absolutely useless?

Any "defensive" situation where new recons will be useful, I guess. Like:

You + 3 people in local, d-scan shows that there are 3 barges in some belt. You warp onto them and see that one of those is bait fit with tackle, 2 others are empty and there are 2 combat ships there onlining their stuff just as you're landing on grid.

That said, it won't make much sense that empty and offlined ships can be seen on scan while offlined ship with pilot will be hidden. And entire thing can be replaced with logoff trap...

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#9 - 2014-12-29 13:18:01 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Krops Vont wrote:
Lets
Arla Sarain wrote:
Wouldn't mind the D-SCAN immunity.

If the capacitor stayed at zero, like reducing your signature in Elite: Dangerous by powering everything down and never being seen.





Why do other games make better choices?


Enable the ability to be undetected by powering off all modules, and remove capacitor.

yay? nay?



Is there even one single situation in the entire game where this would not be absolutely useless?

When you have a cap booster, but that makes the depleted cap drawback useless Blink

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#10 - 2014-12-29 13:21:38 UTC
Guys, seriously.

CCP Rise has said in no uncertain terms that the Dscan immunity is staying. Adjust to the new reality already.
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#11 - 2014-12-29 13:38:59 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
Guys, seriously.

CCP Rise has said in no uncertain terms that the Dscan immunity is staying. Adjust to the new reality already.

And it's a great thing!
For once they didn't get some moronic idea like removing awoxing.

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2014-12-29 15:26:08 UTC
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Is there even one single situation in the entire game where this would not be absolutely useless?

Any "defensive" situation where new recons will be useful, I guess. Like:

You + 3 people in local, d-scan shows that there are 3 barges in some belt. You warp onto them and see that one of those is bait fit with tackle, 2 others are empty and there are 2 combat ships there onlining their stuff just as you're landing on grid.

That said, it won't make much sense that empty and offlined ships can be seen on scan while offlined ship with pilot will be hidden. And entire thing can be replaced with logoff trap...



How is that useful? Those two combat ships can't fight with zero cap, and you can do that exact thing right now with cloaked ships anyway.
Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
#13 - 2014-12-29 16:03:29 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Is there even one single situation in the entire game where this would not be absolutely useless?

Any "defensive" situation where new recons will be useful, I guess. Like:

You + 3 people in local, d-scan shows that there are 3 barges in some belt. You warp onto them and see that one of those is bait fit with tackle, 2 others are empty and there are 2 combat ships there onlining their stuff just as you're landing on grid.

That said, it won't make much sense that empty and offlined ships can be seen on scan while offlined ship with pilot will be hidden. And entire thing can be replaced with logoff trap...



How is that useful? Those two combat ships can't fight with zero cap, and you can do that exact thing right now with cloaked ships anyway.


This would be more 'useful' for lack of a better term in w-space, but the fact is that any fleet worth anything will have a scout. Which completely negates this, and if they're not going to be on grid then why not just have them sit on the other side of a gate, bridge, or wormhole? Or better yet cloaked if they're cov ops capable. Also, mobile depots make this barely more palatable(before you bring them up). In the time it takes them to anchor the depot, online all their modules and warp from an off grid or on grid location, the benefits will be negated for the previously mentioned reasons.
So in essence, Danika is right. This is a useless idea/feature.

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Krops Vont
#14 - 2014-12-29 21:22:37 UTC
Pros: No lock delay
Undetected by dscan
Not logged off (delay in logging in)

Cons: Sitting duck
Would take a while to online all mods


Ah damn this is a stupid idea. I just want no lock delay damnit.

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#15 - 2014-12-29 22:07:59 UTC
Krops Vont wrote:
Pros: No lock delay
Undetected by dscan
Not logged off (delay in logging in)

Cons: Sitting duck
Would take a while to online all mods


Ah damn this is a stupid idea. I just want no lock delay damnit.


well then use your D-scan decloak as they are coming in by the time they are able to be locked your delay is gone

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