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Isk Sink; Introducing Mini Gecko and Nano Gecko.
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Zx00F
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-12-16 12:12:48 UTC

I would love some exlusive drones to be added to the game. My idea is that these can be buildt, and the hardware and bpc drops in Exploration sites.

Mini Gecko;

10m3 bandwith. Same stats as a t2 hammerhead. Better tank, shoots Omni dmg.

Nano Gecko;

5m3 bandwith. Same stats as a t2 hobgoblin. Better tank, shoots Omni dmg.
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-12-16 12:14:51 UTC
How is this an isk sink exactly?

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Arla Sarain
#3 - 2014-12-16 12:34:45 UTC
Only lost if no one picks them up. They won't be shot. Too small to worry about in large fights with big ships and shooting them in frig/cruiser 1v1s or gangs is a waste of time.
Mehrune Khan
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2014-12-16 12:54:36 UTC
It's a cool idea, but you would want to double the bandwidth of the scout and medium drone versions so they fall in line with the heavy gecko, which has 50 bandwidth. They should have a much stronger tank as well as the omni damage. It wouldn't make sense for the scout and medium versions to be so different from the heavy version.

5 medium geckos would be nice on a myrmidon, I suppose. They would probably still be pretty good on a 125 bandwidth ship too.
Zx00F
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-12-16 13:15:57 UTC
Im sure we could add them (bpc's and mats) to the existing pinjata as a very rare drop. That way maintain an very high price. If you feild 5 medium geckos, that should be very expensive :P I'm confident that when scientists was working on reverse engeneere the orignal gecko, they made the mini and nano versions, small and awsome in every way possible to them. So that every capsuleer would hunt the rare and eqsuisite profit it could give them.
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#6 - 2014-12-16 15:35:31 UTC
That is not an isk sink as the geckos on market are not NPC seeded, they are seeded by players who choose to make isk off of the drones rather then losing them or letting them sit in a hanger.

CCP gives player gecko------>pilot puts gecko on market------> another pilot buys gecko, money used to buy goes to previous owner of gecko minus the small amount of tax

The only part of that that is an isk sink is the tax as an isk sink is something used to reduce the total isk amount in eve and not just sit in another pilots wallet.

And my train of thought just derailed.......

oh while buying an expensive drone or some other item seems like an isk sink, it isnt. just like real life when you go to the store and buy something, that money moves to the store bank account from your bank account seeming like a money sink but the money is still in circulation. how ever the governments have a program in place that while they print money, they also destroy money to reduce the amount in the system.

In eve we lack a way to destroy this isk as you kill rats, it is equivalent to printing isk....not selling things on market.
many isk sinks exist like market/contract/pi npc taxes, war decs, and sov ownership rental fees.

many of these isk sinks are veiwed as minor like market taxes, or they have been overcome like rental fees to allow ownership of massive areas of unused space in 0.0 that prevents smaller entities being able to own with out coming under the power of Powerblocs.

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
Iain Cariaba
#7 - 2014-12-16 17:20:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Iain Cariaba
Zx00F wrote:

I would love some exlusive drones to be added to the game. My idea is that these can be buildt, and the hardware and bpc drops in Exploration sites.

Mini Gecko;

10m3 bandwith. Same stats as a t2 hammerhead. Better tank, shoots Omni dmg.

Nano Gecko;

5m3 bandwith. Same stats as a t2 hobgoblin. Better tank, shoots Omni dmg.

Yes, I want geckos for my gilas and worms, even more so if I can field 2 each.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#8 - 2014-12-16 23:56:39 UTC
I think you have left out the part that makes this an isk sink...

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Zx00F
Doomheim
#9 - 2014-12-21 15:54:56 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
I think you have left out the part that makes this an isk sink...


Sorry, the "isk sink" was there to throw all the trolls a bone. But the mini and nano gecko would be awsome! Twisted
Arla Sarain
#10 - 2014-12-21 17:39:00 UTC
Zx00F wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
I think you have left out the part that makes this an isk sink...


Sorry, the "isk sink" was there to throw all the trolls a bone. But the mini and nano gecko would be awsome! Twisted

So there is no ISK sink despite the title stating it and you are the real troll?

10/10
Zx00F
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-12-21 17:45:11 UTC
Still, People are talking about the mini and nano gecko. Its a great idea!
Zx00F
Doomheim
#12 - 2014-12-21 17:52:33 UTC
Mehrune Khan wrote:
It's a cool idea, but you would want to double the bandwidth of the scout and medium drone versions so they fall in line with the heavy gecko, which has 50 bandwidth. They should have a much stronger tank as well as the omni damage. It wouldn't make sense for the scout and medium versions to be so different from the heavy version.

5 medium geckos would be nice on a myrmidon, I suppose. They would probably still be pretty good on a 125 bandwidth ship too.


Double bandwith and size on the original gecko makes sense. They can't be buildt, they are like trinkets found by a large amount of People. I would like to think that scientists that have disected these original geckos, made the new versions more compatable With existing dronebays. Keeping the Omni dmg and making them smaller in size. Of course such Research and Development is costy, and the materials used in these drones not easily found. Thus having a mini use 10m3 and the nano use 5m3, makes more sense.
CW Itovuo
The Executioners
Capital Punishment.
#13 - 2014-12-21 20:33:42 UTC
What's next?

Mini Megathrons?
Micro Apocs?
Pico Naglfar?



-1 Lazy named drones.


Try harder Grasshoper !
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-12-21 20:43:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
Shouldn't the Mini-Gecko be 20m3 and the Nano-Gecko 10m3?



CW Itovuo wrote:
Mini Megathrons?
Micro Apocs?
Pico Naglfar?

Mini Megathron: Brutix
Micro Apoc: Zealot
Pico Naglfar: Thrasher

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Dark Drifter
holdendeezz Co.
Pirate Lords of War
#15 - 2014-12-21 20:48:13 UTC
gekoMk1 - our current drone all stats boosted by 10% to make it stand out from its younger sibalings (retaining its utility and price point)

gekoMk2 - guristas heavy assault drone 50DBw / 50m3 : 1st generation guristas drone AI intergrated in to a repurposed DRAGONFLY hull design

salamander - guristas medium assault drone 20DBw / 20m3 : 2nd generation guristas drone AI buuilt in to a new custom designed guristas drone

newt - guristas light assault drone 10DBw / 10m3 : 2nd generation guristas drone AI buuilt in to a new custom designed guristas drone

Tegu - guristas superheavy drone 75DBw / 75m3 : 1 generation sleeper inspired guristas AI intagrated in to a repurposed MANTIS hull design

drop as BPCs from selected guristas BPCs

::PIE IN THE SKY STATS::
gekoMk2
hp/resists: same as T2 caldari heavy +10%
damage output: Kin/therm/EM 60/30/10
affecting skills: gal and cald drone spec (total boost from these 2 skills 20%) skills not required to operate
speed: intercept MWD 800ms / combat 400ms
special: will paint target along with DPS

salamander
hp/resists: same as T2 caldari medium +10%
damage output: Kin/therm/EM 60/30/10
affecting skills: gal and cald drone spec (total boost from these 2 skills 20%) skills not required to operate
speed: intercept MWD 1000ms / combat 500ms
special: target paint target along with DPS

newt
hp/resists: same as T2 caldari light +10%
damage output: Kin/therm/EM 60/30/10
affecting skills: gal and cald drone spec (total boost from these 2 skills 20%) skills not required to operate
speed: intercept MWD 1500ms / combat 750ms
special: will paint target along with DPS

tegu
hp/resists: same as T2 caldari heavy +50%
damage output: Kin/therm/EM 60/30/10
affecting skills: gal and cald drone spec (total boost from these 2 skills 20%) skills not required to operate
speed: intercept MWD 300ms / combat 150ms
special: will MJD to withing optimal if target exceeds 75km
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-12-21 21:33:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
Dark Drifter wrote:
tegu
hp/resists: same as T2 caldari heavy +65%

FTFY

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Zx00F
Doomheim
#17 - 2014-12-21 23:39:20 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Shouldn't the Mini-Gecko be 20m3 and the Nano-Gecko 10m3?




I touched the subject brifely;

Zx00F wrote:
Mehrune Khan wrote:
It's a cool idea, but you would want to double the bandwidth of the scout and medium drone versions so they fall in line with the heavy gecko, which has 50 bandwidth. They should have a much stronger tank as well as the omni damage. It wouldn't make sense for the scout and medium versions to be so different from the heavy version.

5 medium geckos would be nice on a myrmidon, I suppose. They would probably still be pretty good on a 125 bandwidth ship too.


Double bandwith and size on the original gecko makes sense. They can't be buildt, they are like trinkets found by a large amount of People. I would like to think that scientists that have disected these original geckos, made the new versions more compatable With existing dronebays. Keeping the Omni dmg and making them smaller in size. Of course such Research and Development is costy, and the materials used in these drones not easily found. Thus having a mini use 10m3 and the nano use 5m3, makes more sense.
Zx00F
Doomheim
#18 - 2014-12-21 23:43:26 UTC
Dark Drifter wrote:


Stuff



There is nothing wrong with your imagination atleast Big smile
Dark Drifter
holdendeezz Co.
Pirate Lords of War
#19 - 2014-12-22 13:46:19 UTC
TBH i think my IDEAR was more fleshed out than the "mini geko" proposal.

i stuck with reptillian manes (all small lizards) and stuck to the bigger than average DBW/size .
the 'specials' where a way to make these as combat drones unique and intresting to field over thair T2 faction counterparts.

i would actuly like to see CCP add pirate faction drones to EVE along with the mutch needed drone line/skill tree fix/overhaul
Zx00F
Doomheim
#20 - 2014-12-23 14:23:59 UTC
Those mini geckos would look awsome in my gila's drone hangar.