Jita Park Speakers Corner

I'd love to be there (and was forced by corbexx to post).

I'm in.

I just wanna my space jumping castle among stars.

Working night, so no show for me. Have fun though, and thanks for organizing this.

Highest on my list: Personal SMA's,

raises hand

/does best Horseshack interpetation



If you don't know who horseshack was......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cDAqrywsHE

I will be joining this and recording it for my team. Your input is much appreciated.

Wish I could be there but will be on plane at that time. I can just put down 4 items that need to be touched upon and remade.

1) personal ship maintenance array. This needs to be addressed, and can be done in multiple ways, from personal pos's to an updated storage mechanic. Just having a new sma probably won't work because of the issues with the personal cha. Ultimately people want their own pos, they just don't want to pay for it :-). I have no answer to this, I just know that storage of ships has to be more finite, least for wormhole space which is my main concern here

2) silo's. The online offline mechanic prevents a lot of people from experimenting with that section of industrial gameplay. This needs to be made simpler, and needs to be opened up for everybody to access.

3) more roles need to be added so people and pos modules can be split up based on role access. It also needs to be flexible.

4) all anchoring and weapon mods need to be redone. We really shouldn't have to worry about anchoring anything but the pos. this can be addressed in two ways. When the pos is anchored, you should be able to just open up the main pos window, drop a set of mods (let's say 10 ecm pos mods), and the pos distribute and auto anchors them, one at a time, then once all anchored, begin onlining them one at a time until they are all online. No need for people to distribute mods or find anchor points, the pos just does it automatically. this removes a needless, tedious work of setting pos's up. Also, since the pos anchors stuff automatically, it should be able to offline and I anchor stuff automatically, and tractor that weapon mod to the pos itself for collection.

Fast, simple. To unanchor the pos, you'd have to suck all the mods in and remove them. Or you could just abandon the pos itself and forget the mods if you like. In other words, simplify it a bit. Yes people won't be able to make pos decorations or the Borge cube anymore. But whatever.

Honestly, I would go from the ground up, remake the entire pos program (create it a new), and offer people a choice of which pos to use, the old or the new. Leave the old one as ancient relic with no updates, and give a bonus for using the new one (such as reduced fuel block requirements to coax people to come over.

It all depends on what you want to do though, but honestly trying to enhance the old pos code... You might just want to write a whole new pos setup and offer people both, as people move to new pos's, eventually you can remove the old one entirely (unless people have 8 year old pos's.

I'm just brainstorming atm though.

While not a POS heavyweight, I've done both booster production in k-space and lived in a POS in w-space. I'd be interested in tagging along.

Just out of curiosity, since replies to this thread are all over the place, is there an intention to focus on so-called "little things," or maybe a step up from that? or is there room for big ideas, new concepts, etc.?

The elephant in the room will be the corporation interface, and specifically roles.

I'll be working but I'm gonna toss this in:

The hanger roles in general are a huge pain to deal with, it makes it difficult to get a lot of people to live in an area with no stations.

The reaction mechanic also is a pain, it takes too long to setup and too many random little bugs make it annoying, like when you set yoru chains and hit apply the pos loses the chain info and you have to redo this all again.

To the guy above me who said that having roles for moon sucks, I personally think pos' should NOT be mining moon goo. This needs to stop, and shift to an active mining system.

Having multiple arrays to build stuff is a pita. If I have an x-large ship assembly array why can't I make every ship at that point? Why do I need a small, medium, large, and X-L? If I have the cpu and pg and want to build everything it should be able to, and if I don't then I can drop down to a lower tier array.

I think pos' should become more like a T3 ship. In that you buy the structure, and have slots that you can attach things it and mix and match based on number of slots. Adding things give more pg/cpu or use it. so you can chose different setups and make the mechanic easier to use. but anyway, i'll be looking forward to any notes posted.

Edit Note:

I'll add what I do with a pos.

I used to use it to refine ore, till I realized that the refining array was the biggest waste of time there was. This has sense been repaired in crius, but for the record, the 3 hour reaction time for 1/3 of the ore was a stupid mechanic.

I react wh gas and moon goo in it (in the past I ran 30 pos' for this propose) The reaction mechanic has a lot of issues, is time consuming to setup and check, and is not very intuitive.

I make t3 ships in a pos. Much like the reaction mechianic, it takes a lot fo structures to actually build a T3 in a wh or at a pos, not only do you have to react gas and refine ore, but you need a lab to RE the relics, then you need a component array to make the parts, then you need a subsystem array to build the ships, and now witht he confessor you need an advanced ship array to build them... I never understood the logic of why all this was so complicated, when you could of simplified with a single lab, a single manufacturing plant with various inprovments base don activity. I.e. one that is designed to give a bonus to reactions but can build anything, one with a bonus to drones but can build anything, etc. This would turn something like 10 different sctructures into 3.

Before fuel blocks, fuel tracking was my biggest complaint. There was no simple way to tell what was low from a cry mail unless you did math. If you had 30 pos' crying... it was very easy to mix up fuels, and miss feed the wrong pos. This used to take me hours upon hours upon hours to deal with. Biggest thank you ccp ever when you fixed this.

The targeting and weapons systems on pos are not that great. Its fairly easy for a sub cap fleet of a few ships to RF a tower in no time. You can set it up to make people decide to not shoot you, but again, its still an easy matter to tank and RF.

I have toher gripes but a lot have been fixed recently, so I guess that will do

I will be there too probably if time allows.

So far the only thing POS related I DID NOT used is moon mining. Apart from that I used probably every single element of pos interface in multiple scenarios and runned a WH corp for a long time and struggled with way to accommodate 50+ people on as little poses as possible.