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So to me, the obvious solution would have been to replace the bad colored icons with good colored icons. Not with icons that are undistinguishable for a different reason.

where are the new items for the NES?

the pirate clothes or whatever

I'm finding the UI to be flat and drab looking.

I love the new 'glow' you guys are working for. The tabs for each chat channel look awesome when they flash. But the tabs themselves are ill-defined. I miss the 'button look' and edge details on a lot of things now, inventory icons, tabs, window borders, etc. They stood out, but with the new UI i'm not seeing much contrast to define items from their backround. I'm thinking they should be darker until active. The neocon to the left is alpha faded despite UI settings.

The new map looks great. No route highlighting shown but I like the look so far and it isn't a resource hog. Keep adding functionality to it and it will be a good replacement.

Cheap clones and no skill loss. Your going to need a whole new set of machines to handle the influx of killmails.

I think the new UI illustrates further why an API would be so useful: letting players design their own UIs, and we could satisfy ourselves, rather than complain about whichever arbitrary UI change dropped on patch day.

My own issue with the UI is similar to what others have said: too small, and a lack of colour to quickly know what each icon represents. If I have to hover my mouse over it to know what it does, that's poor UX (imo).

You may not know what you do like but I'd wager most people know what they do dislike

Shape recognition alone is faster in humans that shape + color recognition. I can practically guarantee you that after a few days using the new icons, you won't even notice them anymore.

So to reitarete what has been and probably will be said again, some first impressions...

First the sweet:
new map - awesome, better 3D modeling, nice constellation division and grouping, also more visually appealing.

UI colors and icons - better, old color settings always needlessly complicated, never bothered to swich from gray-on-gray default; new schemes, while simplified, are cleaner and quite pleasant. Icons are clear and distinct, more easliy readable and memorable. And to those having issues with window transparency / flicker: you can turn window blur and set them opaque, and if you're having headaches it's not Eve, it's your monitor, especialy if you have refresh rates below 60Hz, ditch the old CRTs.

Then the sour:
PBR - Amarr hulls look Awesome! ; pure and uncontested, Minmatar are good, especially t2s; but Caldari, and even moreso Gallente made me groan. They look like cheap plastic toys trying to fake metallic shine, definitely need to be toned down on glare, Caldari should be almost all matte, more than minmatar, they're famous for being "ugly"

And for the small things: drone health in drone bay was long overdue for implementation and greatly needed; and manual control usability seems purely situational.

In summary: so far more good than bad, keep up the good work.

You get that it's a beta, right?

I mean, I agree the bloom is over the top at the moment, but it doesn't even have half the features of the old map yet. Obvious work in progress is obvious.

I see what you did there - lull all your war targets into a false sense of security and then when they undock *POUNCE*

I am onto you, Cannibal Kane.

That's cool but the difference is that we weren't asked what we'd like and then they gave us something different than what we asked for but we liked it anyway.

They did something, many didn't like it and they deployed it anyway.

Also I told you I don't have an issue with the symbols as long as I have to deal with the new UI colors.