Warfare & Tactics

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This is the best way forward.

I have posted the same thing in the past and was disappointed when CCP just went with the 30km cloak radius.

::Bump or bust::

Because the death of a few things, could bring life to others.

Kill off bombers and maybe everyone will be out plexing instead of avoiding conflict in a squishy SB.

Add a pack of beer and militia buds, problem solved!

I just don't think you guys will ever understand. I'm glad Amarr had it in them to keep hitting and go for gold. Now if you force people to plex, you create the environment that will bring hunters and content, but you fail to see that plexing is a reward for roaming and finding no fight. The point is to fight and have fun, spinning a plex is only a means to that end but all you fellas see is LP at half the rate of gain than missions, with double the time invested.

Therefore, SB missionijg must surely die! Gate restriction on mission gates to save the heart of the southern war!

1) I added some more detail to OP. I am NOT talking about plexes/outposts here. I am talking about accepted missions from the militia agents. There are acceleration gates on warp-in to every single one of these sites, be it lvl 1, 2, 3, or 4 missions. They come up on the overview for everyone to see and anyone can warp to them and come in. I think this change is needed, as it puts a similar bracket on what can complete them, same as the new burner missions and likewise see in our own Novice, Small, and Medium Outpost restrictions on hull type.

2) Timer roll-back affects farmers because farmers always run. Always. If they run, their work will go to waste while I chase them between celestials. If they cloak, I can sit on the button and wait out my side of the tick (if there were two separate timers, defensive and offensive). Instead, we chase for a minute or two, get mad and leave system, or come back with something with three points, instalock Thrashers. We can't do much about a cloaker that burns slightly off except hope they are dumb, make a mistake, are AFK, or fall asleep. Beyond that, you sit on someone elses work to your detriment with no added gain for winning site control. In fact, it is almost like a penalty by having to waste a substancial amount of added time on a bloated timer.

3) Any farmer interested in LP will go to find the highest payout. This is a Nerf to D-plexing payout and a buff to in-house defense, which is more important but has less of a reward in time investment than what it is now, which borders on the verge of the masochistic. Any system below 70% is usually not being dplexed by a farmer when tier is 2 or below. It adds to the usefulness of defensive plexing, at a cost to self-interested LP gain with a change that will also balance out the loss of SB mission LP donations, if such a change were to be made.

4) Updated with a change suggestion for WCS module penalties. Forget the damn NPC spawn change. For the sake of sanity, this was the old #4 4)Have the current NPC receive spawns in respect to system level. At lvl 0-1 no respawn after clearing npc, and five subsequent spawns (not all at the same time) for the fully upgraded V. Have them spawn a minute and a half or something after each is cleared.

Even if you had a mobile depot, what if you were in a Slicer or Punisher? WCS don't add much to fighting, and cornering one is like clubbing a baby seal. Sure, an ugly one, but still. Hardly the best content to log in to do specifically.

Plus, comparing a Keres, one with high native scan rez, does not come across as normal as you would make refitting seem. A Merlin, for example, would have to drop its tank to refit. You are essentially adding 4mil for your troubles, half of what most frigs are worth.

To say I should fly in a group, but ignore the same argument can be made for the WCS plexers, who NEVER fly as a group (when it's not an army of alts), is slightly contradictory.

a) Precisely. A lot of people run them in Navy Issue long range ships. Usually a sentry VNI. But this is the point, to get people in ships that are engageable and that will encourage a group effort. PVP ships can do them too. I've mentioned already that a pair of navy AB frigs can take out lvl 4's for every faction except Gallente FW. As for SFI's, they are great anti-frig boats with high survivability. The Scythe Fleet Issue is amazing with rapid lights. I think navy cruisers are pretty balanced as far as what each faction has available to use and to sell.

Conclusion:
*They will still be viable and good ISK.
*It will remove people that solo them in an anti-social way, in anti-confrontational fits. These same people who others foster a false illusion that they have no impact on the rest or on the market items pvp plexers rely on.
*It will remove the massive advantage of being able to sustain high tier and the force multiplier of the farmer horde.
*It will put people into space as a group and encourage the environment that creates the Plex Fighter instead of the Mission Scrooge, who eventually quits of boredom, turns into a market mover, or the slaving provider for others, with the exception of the few that have the discipline to find a balance.

only thing i would think of is to increase the pay out of def plexing to make people want to do it other then meh lost this system lets get it back and make more lp

other than that i see no problems

people are saying to much isk well if you look at incursion WH and null rating fw is on the low end if isk makeing and it is not as constant and can get ended real fast by a few interceptors or an error piloting if you in a glass bomber