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SIGHT SEEING around new eden
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TheExtruder
TheExtruder Corporation
#1 - 2014-12-06 20:49:59 UTC  |  Edited by: TheExtruder
"sight seeing" should be done in real time and in-game rather than only seeing glimpses of the most beautiful places in the game through trailers or youtube. including epic pvp fights.

my suggestion is a new type of "scanner probe" that you can send out within a solar system, they will instantly provide a visual for you so you can view the most interesting things in local right away.

"sight seeing spots" in the system as well as any "epic fights" currently going on in system.

You will not be able to warp to any of the probes or be able to see the names of the gates/stations the fight is happening in (because the signals are jammed or something)

only a simple camera with a zoom so you can watch the fight happening from different angles depending on how many probe cameras are on grid.

as soon as the probes are in position, just click "look at" on each of the probes and they will take you to different locations, you will view the probe in third person (like you normally do when you click "look at")

if somebody is a criminal or suspect you can right click his ship and "warp to at 0km"
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2014-12-06 20:54:49 UTC
Visual confirmation without having to be there is OP.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#3 - 2014-12-06 21:15:21 UTC
Ngah .. I don't have the energy to be creative about this.

No.

Because this is the 30-40th time I've seen this.

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Joe Risalo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-12-06 21:20:40 UTC
Perhaps a new ship that is not only a ship with fast auto pilot capability(perhaps warps to 0), but also, is essentially a Pod.

The Ship cannot be targeted - is immune to bubbles - and has a built in scanner that pin points everything in a system to be warped to

Limitations - You cannot leave this ship... It is essentially a jump clone in and of itself, so the only way to get in or out of this ship is to actually jump clone into the ship, possibly effected by jump clone cool down time.

This would be cool for new players, and even old players to explore WH and null space.
When popping up in local, the player name would be highlighted in a manner that would express the fact that he's in one of these ships. (IE - not scaring the crap out of anyone in system that thinks you're there to kill them)

As far as keeping players from using these for intel gathering..... That's a bit difficult..
Perhaps make it a bannable offense?
Not really sure how to avoid that....
Joe Risalo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-12-06 21:42:09 UTC
Joe Risalo wrote:
Perhaps a new ship that is not only a ship with fast auto pilot capability(perhaps warps to 0), but also, is essentially a Pod.

The Ship cannot be targeted - is immune to bubbles - and has a built in scanner that pin points everything in a system to be warped to

Limitations - You cannot leave this ship... It is essentially a jump clone in and of itself, so the only way to get in or out of this ship is to actually jump clone into the ship, possibly effected by jump clone cool down time.

This would be cool for new players, and even old players to explore WH and null space.
When popping up in local, the player name would be highlighted in a manner that would express the fact that he's in one of these ships. (IE - not scaring the crap out of anyone in system that thinks you're there to kill them)

As far as keeping players from using these for intel gathering..... That's a bit difficult..
Perhaps make it a bannable offense?
Not really sure how to avoid that....


Some other ideas for traits on this

Cannot create bookmarks
You show up on local, even in WH systems flagged as mentioned above
NPCs won't even attempt to target you (allowing players to sit back and watch PVE events that would normally kill them, IE null sec plexes and WH sleeper sites)

I'm still trying to find a way to keep players from using it as an intel gathering device..
If it weren't for TS3, i'd say just lock them out of all in game communication... but, as mentioned, TS3 jacks that up....
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#6 - 2014-12-06 22:00:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Joe, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or thick,
which means you're either being extremely sarcasticBig smile or not at allUgh.

But might I point both you and the op twords yer racial covops frigs and the sisters line of ships.

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Joe Risalo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-12-06 22:09:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Joe Risalo
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Joe, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or thick,
which means you're either being extremely sarcasticBig smile or not at allUgh.

But might I point both you and the op twords yer racial covops frigs and the sisters line of ships.



Not Sarcastic, just wishful thinking.

I'd love to be able to explore all parts of space without risk of being shot at.
Going and watching players run null sec plexes, Watching an alliance battle from right in the middle of everything, watching an incursion without being part of it, etc. etc. etc....

You know.. just enjoying all aspects of Eve without a care in the world.

Unfortunately, the innate nature of Eve and it's players is that anything and everything that can be taken advantage of, will be taken advantage of...


Kinda like back in the day when experienced players used to bait noobs and then blow them up all the time.
Now, that's a ban-able offense in starter systems..... I almost got banned for that, though that rule wasn't in effect when I was a noob....
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#8 - 2014-12-06 22:49:24 UTC
Wouldn't that be hollow as **** though?

And you can still flip nubeis, just not in those systems(obligatory : don't be a knob about it when you do).

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Vapor Ventrillian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-12-06 22:56:47 UTC
Twould be awesome and a useful tool for my evil SIGHTSEEING TOURS...MWAHARHAR!! Twisted

Plus one from me Bear

The Evil Overlord of Scope, self elected as all good overlords should be
TheExtruder
TheExtruder Corporation
#10 - 2014-12-06 23:05:11 UTC
Vapor Ventrillian wrote:
Twould be awesome and a useful tool for my evil SIGHTSEEING TOURS...MWAHARHAR!! Twisted

Plus one from me Bear


lol evil sightseeing tours
Iain Cariaba
#11 - 2014-12-06 23:19:18 UTC
Yet another bad idea from OP.

-1.0x10^1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 for trying to remove player interaction.
Joe Risalo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-12-06 23:22:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Joe Risalo
I would especially love to use this to see the new shattered WH system, especially the massive one with NPC stations, as i'll likely never get to see it in person any other way, without being blown up...

Side note, a person in this vessel can not be warped to while in a fleet, nor can the ship be detected by probes.
That, coupled with not be able to set bookmarks, means this ship can't be used as a quick and easy scan boat..
Joe Risalo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-12-06 23:26:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Joe Risalo
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Yet another bad idea from OP.

-1.0x10^1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 for trying to remove player interaction.


Wrong... This would actually lead to more player interaction.
new/inexperienced players would be able to roams, come into missions, incursions, sleeper sites, etc. etc. etc. in or to learn new things without hendering the actual fleet with low sklls and/or low knowledge.


Edit... also, this ship wouldn't not be recognized in a manner that could cause decloak..
IE, you can't use it to try and break a cloak camp..

2nd Edit...

Oh, and it doesn't effect ship travel... it can't bump, and bumping into it will push it out of the way, without changing the course of the charging ship....
so feel free to bump this ship into oblivion without effect your own trajectory...
Vapor Ventrillian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-12-06 23:29:44 UTC
+1.0x10^1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 cos we can do that nowTwisted

The Evil Overlord of Scope, self elected as all good overlords should be
TheExtruder
TheExtruder Corporation
#15 - 2014-12-07 10:15:56 UTC
ALTERNATIVELY: you can send out these new type of scanner drones during a battle that is happening on grid with you. those probes will automatically zoom in on different enemy ships and stay centered on them while zoomed in. All you have to do is click "one magic button" and you can quickly browse through all your probes on grid and get a sense of what sort of weapons the enemy is carrying, who is shooting who etc etc.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#16 - 2014-12-07 10:22:38 UTC
ok iv had my morning coffee and you know what?
i still couldn't be arsed.

no.

look at the Zephyr.

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TheExtruder
TheExtruder Corporation
#17 - 2014-12-07 10:30:09 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
ok iv had my morning coffee and you know what?
i still couldn't be arsed.

no.

look at the Zephyr.


true, but improving the visual aspect of the game is highly important for a spaceship game, this is fairly low commitment from ccp compared to other potential ideas the way i see it. the staying zoomed out 90% of the fight just feels wrong in the end no matter how much you justify it, its a spaceship game but where the heck is the ship during the fights?? does one really have to compromize his safety in order to get a nice visual on some spaceships up close
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#18 - 2014-12-07 11:25:30 UTC
TheExtruder wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
ok iv had my morning coffee and you know what?
i still couldn't be arsed.

no.

look at the Zephyr.


true, but improving the visual aspect of the game is highly important for a spaceship game, this is fairly low commitment from ccp compared to other potential ideas the way i see it. the staying zoomed out 90% of the fight just feels wrong in the end no matter how much you justify it, its a spaceship game but where the heck is the ship during the fights?? does one really have to compromize his safety in order to get a nice visual on some spaceships up close

log in to sisi, then come back here and eat those words

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TheExtruder
TheExtruder Corporation
#19 - 2014-12-07 11:50:35 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
TheExtruder wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
ok iv had my morning coffee and you know what?
i still couldn't be arsed.

no.

look at the Zephyr.


true, but improving the visual aspect of the game is highly important for a spaceship game, this is fairly low commitment from ccp compared to other potential ideas the way i see it. the staying zoomed out 90% of the fight just feels wrong in the end no matter how much you justify it, its a spaceship game but where the heck is the ship during the fights?? does one really have to compromize his safety in order to get a nice visual on some spaceships up close

log in to sisi, then come back here and eat those words


whats your point exactly, not everyone has time to log on to test server if thats what you mean
Aiyshimin
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#20 - 2014-12-07 11:54:50 UTC
TheExtruder wrote:
ALTERNATIVELY: you can send out these new type of scanner drones during a battle that is happening on grid with you. those probes will automatically zoom in on different enemy ships and stay centered on them while zoomed in. All you have to do is click "one magic button" and you can quickly browse through all your probes on grid and get a sense of what sort of weapons the enemy is carrying, who is shooting who etc etc.


Why not just use the Look at function, or alt-click on the ships.
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