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Well, several of these are just straight up nerfs to ganking - something that is already pretty much unprofitable in all case except for overloaded haulers or bling-fit missioner/miners - I would like to ask more about this station lockout. While I don't think it is feasible (or fair) as there is no precedent for a game mechanic where players are auto-ejected into space, I am curious about your intentions here. In your view would such a lockout/eject system replace the 15 minute criminal timer, or be in addition? If I were an industrious ganker and had a Bowhead full of gank ships in a safe spot, could I keep ganking?

Otherwise, a 30 minute lockout where I all I can do is just sit in space in a pod is not very compelling gameplay.

I can think of several ideas that would actually make ganking more risky, but all these suggestions do is make ganking less profitable and more tedious, while doing nothing to give players a chance to actually "get revenge" on a ganker other than repeatedly blowing up an empty pod (which come Rhea pod-loss will have no penalty).

Finally, ganking is at an all time low yet suppose to be in the game. Do you really, really think that more nerfs are in order?

Yes, they are. But that's much better then no ganking at all in high-sec You need to see this not only from a ganker point, but also from the ganked player. It doesn't really matter how you call the timer, as long as you are killable without the easy dockup option. 30 minutes might be a bit to much. 15-20min or so might be better.

You should have docked up and ban the people who script.

I dont agree. Flagging is something different then what I want. I want people to be behind their pc when they are logged in. A notification a few minutes before you return to the login screen, of course that should be there.
I haven't, but will do.

Wow. OK.

Sorry, but if my kid's in trouble, I'm not going to do a damn thing in the game first, and I'm not going to limit myself to those systems with stations, either. The issue isn't that OMG I might lose space pixels. The issue is that if I go AFK I generally have a reason to, and I have accepted that going AFK in a PVP game means that I might well come back to a fresh clone in my medical station, and I don't want to be nannied and babysat by some stupid modal dialog. I would rather be logged out.

People go AFK because a rational cost/benefit analysis makes it a sensible choice.



If you want it, what incentive do you provide to encourage them to do that? I mean, if you did an honest assessment of exactly how much AFK gameplay there is all over New Eden, it would be staggering, and that's largely because of assumptions built into the core of the game. You want people to be at their keyboards while sitting on a titan waiting for a bridge? You want someone to ATK pilot a freighter when the cost of sitting there glassy-eyed for 45 minutes watching glacial aligns and slow-motion warp tunnels is not worth the smidgen of time saved and a tiny bit of extra safety?

If you wanted to, you could get rid of most AFK gameplay easily: remove autopilot, the "aggressive" option for drones, and module auto-repeat. Remove Orbit and Keep at Range, and have Approach turn off when your ship comes within 1km of the destination. Done.

Do you want to play that game?

A couple of years ago I wrote a post urging a new perspective on the way we look at hi-sec here - I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on how this meshes with your own ideas.


fakeedite: huh that was actually almost 3 years ago. Sic transit gloria mundi...

You do realize that this doesn't increase pvp in any way as the gankers can't dock up to get new ships. All this does is cut the number of ships that a single gank fleet can kill in half, or require them to use extensive orca/bowhead support. I'll send you a similar suggestion that I have for increasing conflict between gankers and anti-gankers. We have already targeted gankers pocket books (insurance changes) and increased safety for miners/travelers (barge/freighter ehp buffs) in high sec enough. Further steps need to be taken to increase the interaction with those that oppose ganking.For the record, I want anti-gankers to be more sucessful. Currently their job is exceedingly difficult but but making high sec safer is not a good option.

Edit: I just realized that I misread that, your proposed penalties are only for people in NPC corps. That is fine, but I don't understand why you want a reduction on loot drops. Blue loot should be the primary profit margin for anti-gankers, and gankers already have to deal with the fact that they get no insurance on ships. Keep loot the same. Why don't you send these suggestions to James and see what he says.

Anything that will increase the interaction between gankers and anti-gankers is something I will support. Blue loot would be ok too. I mainly have an issue with freighter ganking right now. It's way to hard to protect yourself from it. Even if a freighter hires Marmites to camp the entire system, escort if from A to B, it's still easy to gank it. Mining barges can at least be pvp fitted as bait, align, etc.

Dedicated camps against NPC gankers, good luck. CCP can do anything, even if they have to make you walk your Fedo every day. I am against things as AFK mining or AFK cloaking in nulsec. Good luck doing something about AFK cloakers. The biggest diff between NPC and 'my' way, is that people can start to learn how corps work and group up. The community thing is what makes Eve such a great game.

You had my vote until I read this. You're viewing ganking like a carebear; as if the ganker is "bad" and the gankee and/or whiteknight is "good" or some such nonsense. It has nothing to do with who's bad and who's good, it's simply a play-style. Furthermore, why punish those who enjoy ganking, again? The buff to Barge/Exhumer HP wasn't enough? The countless Concord buffs? Removal of insurance fraud? The buff to Freighters? The removal of blood jumping? The "rebalance" to the Bowhead? The gankee literally having everything needed at their fingertips to avoid being ganked, yet is too lazy to even F10. Have you forgotten F10? Star Map > Stars > Statistics > Ships Destroyed in the Last 1hr/24hr? Do you really believe that Highsec needs another buff?




As much as I agree with this (and I do), it's just not going to happen. Going AFK doesn't break any rules posed by CCP. Needless to say this would also effect everybody, even those who dock in station to go AFK making docking to go AFK for a quick IRL thing pointless; might as well log off in space and maybe not won't log back in. Who-knows? For those that have multiple accounts this would get old fast. Logging into a game shouldn't be a chore.




I am a little surprised to see you wanting a nerf to Highsec Wardec mechanics. Regardless, I tend to agree that many new player corps get decc'ed to death. However, as it's been said several times before, owning a Corp is a privilege and not something that every player should jump right into without learning more about the game... and thus the wardec mechanic helps, as you put it, delete the weak; CEOs and players who shouldn't be anywhere near owning a Corp.

I made a corp a while back and was never decc'ed. I personally believe this comes back to the overall mentality of the Corp, the CEO and the players he/she invites. Or, in other words, if a Corp gets decc'ed, they did something wrong.

And, hey it's not like they can't drop/reform the Corp.




For better or worse NPC Corps/agents will never be removed; at least not anytime soon.




I fully support this idea.

Your thoughts about a 1 minute timer for people who steal loot ? So they cant dock up right away.

So let's review your idea of 'auto-undocking'. As a ganker, I would have an orca or bowhead in a safespot, boarding ships from there. If you think carebears or 'anti-gankers' are gonna form up to scan down my pod warping from safe to safe and setting up you are sadly mistaken. They don't camp stations now, they don't set up traps in the belts now, they don't figure out where my insta-undocks are. Which are real easy only a couple of 100km from station in general, sometimes even still on grid and in plain view for anyone to see. If that may seem a bit sloppy to you (it is), it's only because of there is no NEED for me to do any better atm.

So, currently they don't hunt me despite knowing where I undock and dock, knowing where I am going to strike (ice field/belt with the poorly tanked miner). That's how simple they have it atm, if they're not doing it now, expecting that they will go through even MORE trouble scanning down a pod and hunting it while it warps between several safes is, let's stay polite, 'a bit naive' at best....

It will only make catching a ganker harder and more tedious (dunno about you but if I was hunting a ganker I'd be quite worn out the 10th time I scanned him down just to have him warp to his next safe the moment you land on grid), and it will make ganking more tedious too. So a lose-lose situation there.

But let's say the DO manage to catch me (fat chance but in theory it is possible), I get popped, wake up in clone vat, get ejected. Oh boy! They're gonna get some double revenge now ey??? \o/ Erm, no, at that point, my pod will be empty. That's a zero isk kill if they get me the second time. "HAHA, but your clone cost, haha!!!". Well, that 'problem' will be gone in 6 days come Rhea, but maybe you missed the upcoming clone changes. In short: clones will be free come Rhea, zero isk paid. So, at that point, I could not care less how many times I am podded and will be doing something else on my alts, being AFK till the timer wears off or simply logging off, while getting ejected out of station every 40 seconds or so into the arms of an angry mob for 30 minutes. Although I think that mob will very soon get bored once they realize they are not ammounting to anything and will be ridiculed throughout the chat channels and forums. Shooting repetively at something that doesn't gain you anything will just make you look silly. So this is what we will end up with: gankers getting autoejected repeatedly out of station with just the odd passer by caring enough to lock and fire at them out of boredom or daftness.

Gameplay: none, for neither of the parties involved and ridicule all around for CCP for implementing such a meaningless feature and the ppl shooting the pods claiming they are achieving something.

As for non-deccable corps, they will come with non-deccable POS-es, which will be filling up the entire space of high sec in a few months time with the deccable POS slowly dying out as it gets replaced by non-deccables. They will also be a great place to hide for gankers, who will most likely be exchanging passwords to hide in each others bases. You could argue no setting up posses for the small corps, but that's just pushing them further towards NPC status again. You would also be pissing off plenty of small corporations that currently run their own pos. I've been in one that was under 10, we had our own pos, taken from another small corp even and we were quite pleased with it.

Not only will your highsec be filled with undeccable posses, it will also be filled with undeccable bear corporations, above 15 member bear corpos will simply disolve into several smaller ones and share a chat channel. Becuz of "I just want to mine/mission/run sites/whatever in peace to relax!"-argument.

Your view on highsec is SO aimed at making it a themepark with EVE graphics that I seriously consider the possibility that you, the CEO of one of the largest Highsec PVP groups, are trolling...

PS. If trolling then all I can say is: well played sir!