Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hello fellow capsulers, as you all know, in terms of SOV without supers you cannot do much.
Even after the changes those ships are more important or even much more important than any other ship you can field.

Currently in order to build this kind of ship - you need not only materials, but also SOV - and this puts new groups in very bad position.

Eve is changing so i think it is time to change also this aspect of the game.

What i propose is to untie the Supercapital construction from Sov requirements.
Instead of this building supers in Sov should just give some additional benefits.

Change that i propose is very simple :
1. We increase base build time of all supers by 20% ( i know you all love this change )
2. Installing in the system : Supercapital Construction Facilities give you 20% time reduction for all superacapital construction jobs.
3. (the fun part) If you want to build your super in lowsec , you will get additional slowdown of construction process by 20%
( concord is triple checking every thing )

Summarizing:

Building a titan in known space:
- in a Nullsec ( any ) will take 20% more time
- in a Nullsec , where you have access to Supercapital Construction Facilities , it will take the same amount time like now
- in a Lowsec will take 40% more time

This is a trivial point, but a 20% increase followed by a 20% decrease is less than the original.

I.e.

100 * 1.2 (+20%) = 120
120 * 0.8 (-20%) = 96
a 4% reduction overall
Also

100 * 1.2 (+20%) = 120
120 * 1.2 (+20%) = 144
a 44% increase instead of 40%

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The point ^ made about j-space is a good one - what are your ideas there.

Do you really want to have supers in J space?
I vote for removing all of them from the game ... but this will never happen , to many players invested to much time in obtaining those.
Let's not brake the J space....

Gap between older players, and big groups grow every day, and every super deployed deep in nullsec.
CCP didn't introduced any good way you can remove those behemoths from eve , you still need big blob to kill those before reinforcements arrive.

This change is to make access to those ships more dynamic, and viable for small ( especially new ) groups.
This will again remove , some gap , between new and older players and will create some content.

Remember.
Building super in lowsec will take 40% more time than in upgraded sov space.



Your math is better.
But i think i made clear that after those changes building a super in a upgraded sov will require as much time as you need now.
Nullsec without upgrade +20% time
Lowsec +40% time.




CCP remove all supers - please ( this is my personal opinion).
But this will never happen.

Blocking access to those ships will be bad thing now.
Eve space is just floating with supers - if we make access to them for new players harder , eve will become more stagnant.

Unless CCP create new ship : THE RAM , that will have Jump drive and will be capable of destroying a super at cost of its own life ... new people must have supers to compete with older players.

Remember that many super pilots are bought off the market , so SP is not the issue here.

Because we have already tons of supers in the game.
Those are strategic level assets , and if we do what you want ( and i agree that it should be done this way ) new players and groups will have hard time acquiring this stuff.

Especially when you include into this that other super groups will be putting more and more pressure to acquire new ships for their own fleets.

This topic is about removing sov dependency on constructing those ships, and that's all.

You cannot do it.
Supers :
- enormous EHP
- big firepower

What will you take from them.

Death to all supers.

Delete them all.

but I want to have a titian to protect my c1. you know thats what they are there for.

Again i agree ... but the moment that current super swarms will be gone from the game.

What you are saying :
- make supers harder to get ( and this is good thing )

Outcome will be :
- we have 250 supers , we have space, we have income - no one will be able to contest us from new groups ( and this is not so good thing )

Building supers is one of the few perks to owning sov.

Death to all supers.