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Update regarding Multiboxing and input automation

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Airi Cho
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#61 - 2014-11-25 16:37:58 UTC
Warr Akini wrote:
I've had a good suicide ganking run, but the wave of nerfs against it don't seem to be stopping anytime soon.

Thanks. It's been fun.


seriously you needed isboxer for suicide ganking?
BadAssMcKill
Aliastra
#62 - 2014-11-25 16:38:09 UTC
Top lol
Max Croxford
Ethereal Legion
Ethereal Legion.
#63 - 2014-11-25 16:38:52 UTC
Excellent job CCP, this has been something needed done for a while now.
Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#64 - 2014-11-25 16:39:04 UTC
Frozen Hairdresser wrote:
Just to be clear, are we still allowed to bind all our hardeners to the same key?


From what I understand that would be illegal too. I can live with that but it would be a nice time to make tank modules groupable. Hitting f1 to f8 was ridiculous, they fixed that, now I think it would be a good idea to fix hitting alt/ctrl f1 to f5 Smile
Powers Sa
#65 - 2014-11-25 16:39:57 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Fonac wrote:
So is-boxer is banned?

edit: I Honestly dont care about is-boxer or what it can do, since i've never used it, or met anyone who uses it. But the OP is not very clear on it.



isboxer isn't banned. Some of the things isboxer can do are banned.

It sounds like I can still use it for what i've always used it for: window management.
At most I've run 4 accounts with isboxer managing all my windows. In very very rare occasions I've used it to repeat, but that was a long time ago when naga ratting was a thing. I've mainly used it to manage windows when fcing or scouting.

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GOB the Magician
Enlightened Industries
Goonswarm Federation
#66 - 2014-11-25 16:40:11 UTC
eiedu wrote:
RIP incursions
RIP Ratting
RIP bombing

Time to go back to wow, where it makes no sense to have multiple accounts



lol. get out.
Kaaeliaa
Tyrannos Sunset
#67 - 2014-11-25 16:40:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaaeliaa
Gina Taroen wrote:
lol wonder how many people will quit because of this :D


Who cares?

They're the kind of people EVE doesn't want because they screw things up for everyone else.

CCP, congratulations on having the stones to put your foot down and tell these types to get out. Maybe we can finally have nice things again.

"Do not lift the veil. Do not show the door. Do not split the dream."
padraig animal
Machiavellian Empire
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#68 - 2014-11-25 16:40:35 UTC
eiedu wrote:
RIP incursions
RIP Ratting
RIP bombing

Time to go back to wow, where it makes no sense to have multiple accounts

How are you even going to "catch" people who are input-multiplexing hardware-wise



Cool , can i have your stuff before you deactivate your accounts ? Arrow

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marly cortez
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#69 - 2014-11-25 16:41:39 UTC
The Sandbox ....What can be will be......except when we decide it's not to be. Compliments of CCP... Evil

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Arkon Olacar
black.listed
#70 - 2014-11-25 16:41:54 UTC
Meilandra Vanderganken wrote:
Frozen Hairdresser wrote:
Just to be clear, are we still allowed to bind all our hardeners to the same key?


From what I understand that would be illegal too. I can live with that but it would be a nice time to make tank modules groupable. Hitting f1 to f8 was ridiculous, they fixed that, now I think it would be a good idea to fix hitting alt/ctrl f1 to f5 Smile

Is this the hardeners on one account, or across multiple accounts?

Keyboard shortcuts on one account = legal
Multiplying that across more than one account = illegal

It really is not hard. Have you tried reading the OP?
SIR PRIME
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#71 - 2014-11-25 16:42:21 UTC
Made my day. :)
drummendejef maaktnietuit
Ramm's RDI
Tactical Narcotics Team
#72 - 2014-11-25 16:43:01 UTC
So, this will be banable too?

Hardware Method
Kant Boards
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#73 - 2014-11-25 16:43:07 UTC
CCP making bold and courageous and much needed changes. Whats next!? An end to AFK cloaking?!
Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#74 - 2014-11-25 16:43:50 UTC
Wait - hold on, just thought of something -


G15 and related keyboards are now banned??? They allow one keyboard click to do F1-F8 simultaneously

Although grouping guns in game does the same thing - except smartbombs
Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#75 - 2014-11-25 16:43:58 UTC
Does this apply to inventory management within the same station?

For example... I occasionally go on a ship giveaway binge where I'll fit up several dozen frigs / destroyers, fill their cargo with the skills needed to fly them, and then give them out in newbie systems.

Obviously click dragging a dozen items one by one is tedious in the extreme and any automation would be a godsend.

Is it acceptable to load up a bunch of accounts at once and use broadcasting to speed up this process?
EvilweaselFinance
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#76 - 2014-11-25 16:44:01 UTC
drummendejef maaktnietuit wrote:
So, this will be banable too?

Hardware Method


are you multiplying the same input to multiple instances of the game, via any method whatsoever?

Quote:
Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing refer to the multiplication of inputs, actions and events to multiple instances of the game.


then no, you are not ok
Arteriamus
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#77 - 2014-11-25 16:44:12 UTC
So essentially:

PLEX prices are too high, we'll remove a lot of the demand?
Masao Kurata
Perkone
Caldari State
#78 - 2014-11-25 16:44:14 UTC
Wow, this is wonderful. Not only did you make the hard decision I thought CCP didn't have the guts to make for the long term health of EVE, but you actually wrote mostly a mostly unambiguous policy that isn't open to interpretation. That might be a first.

That said, I do have a couple of questions:

First, and importantly, how do we report strongly suspected input multiplexing/broadcasting going forward from 2015? Is the report bot function meant to be used for this too? Furthermore could this function please be given the option to add a message explaining the reason for suspicion?

Second, does input multiplexing refer to using software to e.g. bind F1 to actually input F1 on client 1, F2 -> F1 on client 2, F3 -> F1 on client 3 etc.? I'm not familiar with the exact capabilities of isboxer other than input broadcasting so I haven't seen this functionality, thank you for banning this too if that's what it means though.
Theon Severasse
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2014-11-25 16:44:29 UTC
drummendejef maaktnietuit wrote:
So, this will be banable too?

Hardware Method


My understanding is that that counts as "modified hardware".
Airi Cho
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#80 - 2014-11-25 16:44:30 UTC
drummendejef maaktnietuit wrote:
So, this will be banable too?

Hardware Method



yes. it is mentioned in the devblog :)