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"Malabar" faction mining barge
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Mehrune Khan
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2014-11-21 18:24:59 UTC
For fun I designed a pirate faction mining barge. I doubt CCP would add it to the game and I know I will probably be ridiculed for posting ths, but I am happy with how it turned out. It's a little slower and less agile than a normal Procurer, but it can mine from an extreme distance using mining drones, and can shoot down rats with a heavy missile launcher. It can't fit strip miners so you can't mine ice with it, but would be great for mining rocks.

It could be added through Guristas LP store, but I would expect it to be stupidly expensive and outside the financial reach of most miners. As a result, it would no doubt bring grievous tears to anyone losing one and people flying this ship would become like candy to gankers. Even given that risk I would still want to fly one. =P

"Malabar" Guristas Mining Barge
(Procurer Hull)

Requiring an industrial backbone to fuel his ever-burgeoning pirate fleet, Korako 'Rabbit' Kosakami stole the ORE Procurer design and souped up it's drone capabilites to facilitate faster mining, and in a perverse twist of humor (or perhaps insane genius?) he replaced the strip mining turret with a high-yield missile launcher. The resulting concoction of technology is the Malabar, and its resemblance to its ORE predecessor is only skin deep.

Mining Barge bonuses (per skill level):
80% bonus to mining drone yield
20% bonus to mining drone velocity

Role Bonus:
50% bonus to kinetic and thermal missile damage

Fitting
CPU: 250 tf
Powergrid: 95 MW
Calibration: 350
Low Slots: 2
Med Slots: 5
High Slots: 1
Launcher Hardpoints: 1
Turret Hardpoints: 0
Upgrade Hardpoints: 3

Structure
Structure hit points: 6200
Cargo Capacity: 350 m3
Ore Hold Capacity: 13000 m3
Drone Capacity: 50 m3
Drone Bandwidth: 25 Mbit/sec
Mass: 10,000,000 kg
Volume: 100,000.0 m3 (3,750 m3 packaged)
Inertia Modifier: 1
EM Damage Resistance: 0%
Thermal Damage Resistance: 0%
Kinetic Damage Resistance: 0%
Explosive Damage Resistance: 0%

Armor
Armor hit points: 5600
Armor EM Damage Resistance: 55%
Armor Thermal Damage Resistance: 40%
Armor Kinetic Damage Resistance: 25%
Armor Explosive Damage Resistance: 10%

Shield
Shield hit points: 7200
Shield recharge time: 2400.00 seconds
Shield EM Damage Resistance: 30%
Shield Thermal Damage Resistance: 40%
Shield Kinetic Damage Resistance: 45%
Shield Explosive Damage Resistance: 50%

Capacitor
Capacity: 900 GJ
Recharge time: 180.00 seconds

Targeting
Maximum targeting range: 65.0 km
Maximum locked targets: 3
Scan Resolution: 440 mm
Magnetometric sensor strength: 10 points
Signature radius: 150 m

Movement
Max velocity: 125 m/sec
Align time: 15.0 seconds
Ship Warp Speed: 3.0 AU/S
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#2 - 2014-11-21 18:50:59 UTC
Mining from a distance with drone is pointless other then being to lazy to move
The more distance you are the longer it would take to mine the same amount
Also the drones would due as they are rather weak and are a favorite for the rats

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
Mehrune Khan
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-11-21 19:00:32 UTC
Yeah I was thinking about travel time for the drones. At mining barge 5 it would have about the same yield as the other mining barges according to EFT but I think that is assuming the barge is right next to a rock. A 100% bonus to mining drone yield per level might work out better, but I was worried it might be too much.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#4 - 2014-11-22 05:10:32 UTC
ORE is pirate faction!

/thread

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This is the law of ship progression!

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James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#5 - 2014-11-22 05:19:05 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
ORE is pirate faction!

/thread

+1
only faction with t2 pirate ships that aren't AT prizes. CCP PLZ nerf ORE.

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Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
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#6 - 2014-11-22 16:45:04 UTC
sentry mining drones . yawn we would need a faction barge but would suggest that could fit regular mining lasers/gas harvesters aswelll
Mehrune Khan
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2014-11-22 17:25:54 UTC
ORE wasn't always owned by Serpentis - it could be a design that Korako stole years back when ORE was still independent and left on the backburner for a while. Or they could just make it a Serpentis ship, but the bonuses don't really fit with angel designs.

I just thought a drone mining barge would be fun, since it's something we don't have yet. Any of the other barges can fit ice and gas harvesters, so it's not a big deal if this one can't. In fact it might be a good trade-off if this one turns out to have a little more yield than the other barges - great for mining rocks, but not for mining other stuff.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-11-22 18:06:13 UTC
Why does it have unrealistic stats like 30% base EM resist? As a guristas faction ship based on a tech 1 ship hull, there is no reason that this would have such high base EM resists. They would either be 0, or 20 after a 4% per level bonus.

Taking another look through the stats, I think this thing is actually worse than a procurer, once you deal with the EM shield resist discrepancy.

The missile damage is a joke with 1 damage only bonused launcher, the drone bay is pathetic, and the yield is completely dependant on range from the asteroid. With mining drone's slow flight time, even with the ship bonus, the farther this thing sits from the roid it is mining, the less yield per hour, so the whole 'mining from extreme range' thing goes right out the window.

It's a fun idea, but even without the misappropriation of Gurista as caring about employing mining fleets, I don't think this is a useful or worthwhile addition to the game. Especially when existing mining ships *COUGH*rorqual*COUGH* are in a bad place.
Mehrune Khan
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2014-11-22 18:22:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Mehrune Khan
I may not have the numbers balanced right. So drop the EM resist lower, increase the drone velocity bonus a bit more, and maybe buff the launcher damage a little more - maybe with an additional rate of fire bonus?

Remember you don't need to do a lot of damage to kill rats. One launcher should be enough for that especially given the tank on this thing. I'm not expecting anyone to PvP with it.

I wouldn't throw out the idea completely just because I got some numbers wrong. I think it would work if it was balanced right.

*EDIT: Also I'm not opposed to increasing the size of the drone bay, or even increasing it's bandwidth. I just didn't want it to look OP and have it dismissed out of hand.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-11-23 00:46:59 UTC
Mehrune Khan wrote:
I may not have the numbers balanced right. So drop the EM resist lower, increase the drone velocity bonus a bit more, and maybe buff the launcher damage a little more - maybe with an additional rate of fire bonus?

Remember you don't need to do a lot of damage to kill rats. One launcher should be enough for that especially given the tank on this thing. I'm not expecting anyone to PvP with it.

I wouldn't throw out the idea completely just because I got some numbers wrong. I think it would work if it was balanced right.

*EDIT: Also I'm not opposed to increasing the size of the drone bay, or even increasing it's bandwidth. I just didn't want it to look OP and have it dismissed out of hand.


To be frank, I don't think that CCP has ever accepted a fully presented ship suggestion in 11 years. Not that I would say not to do one, but its kindof like writing a screenplay. You write up a script for a movie, you put loving thought and detail into everything, and then you sell it, or you try to. If anyone does buy it, in this case, someone from CCP decides to find it inspiring and take it to the drawing board, you can expect to find it heavily dissected. While the spirit of the ship might remain, I would expect to see the stats, the name, the source, even the role all getting adjusted and readjusted, until your guristas procurer is released as an SOE procurer that boasts additional mining drone yield.

I feel like though, yes, the two biggest discrepancies with the suggestion are the source faction, and the lack of seeming like a useful new role. If we got a mining ship that did all its mining through drones, would it really be a faction variation, and not a new mining ship altogether, that could have a frigate sized option, and a t2 variant, as well as a tank that is baanced around not needing capacitor for strips and all that. Lots of questions.

I hope this is a little less harsh, and explains a little more of my complaint.