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[Video project] One Man Crew – Official release

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Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
#61 - 2014-11-13 23:17:44 UTC
Theronth Valarax wrote:
Yeah you got me on that Thorax one. I haven't considered it was a fight 'by newbie for newbies' so I'll have to agree on this one.
Mizhir wrote:

But still, the most important thing is that even though it burned out and crippled his ship (Ferox) he still kept on fighting with a cool head instead of panicing.
I find that argument funny. If you're scrambled, webbed and can't even use half of your modules because you've burned them out by needlessly overheating afterburner when your target is orbiting you at ~800m, when you could've used that heat to get more out of asb charges, how is it you're 'cool headed' staying on field when you have no other choice. Well, unless he was triple stabbed and we just don't see it on the video. I'm sure you had more 'balls deep' clip sent your way and even if you didn't that brave Vexor or even Hyperion jumping back into oblivion are more worthy of the prize.

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The grand prize has been a headache for me, because it is really hard to present the important aspects about it. He fight is all about the setup of the fight and baiting the enemies into attacking you while they are in a weak position. And remember that Aldap's success relies a lot on tricking people into taking gateguns in a situation where they think it is an easy kill. And how often do you see a t1 cruiser kill a hac, a t1 cruiser and a faction frig while other ships are still on grid?
Yeah now that you've said it yourself I can say that this clip indeed reeks of Aldap. I was never a fan of his videos, mainly because of his setups having a narrow engagement profile and heavily relying on gate guns to kill his opponents. Propably I shouldn't be suprised then that contest with his name on it would have that engagement as the 'best fight'. I honestly think that the Myrmidon should have taken that, as you've mentioned in a reply to Cyraon wars he did use the gate in a nice way and did good Drone Juggling. That's imho the best fight of all unlinked ones in this video.

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The middle part of the vargur fight was indeed mehh, but the MJD kill was still an excellent manouvre and overall the fight shows some good piloting. Also don't forget that the Vargur and Kronos was picked over your vargur fight because we simply considered them better. So be careful when bashing it.
I'm going to burst your bubble by saing that I'm not bashing this out of spite, as I wouldn't use the fight I've submitted myself. It's been rushed and I did too many mistakes to even compete with Skyflyer. I consider myself lucky it got included in Honorable Mentions. I've just stated that it is kinda underwhelming, as he never even broke a sweat and MJD is nothing out of the box years after being added to the game.

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Regarding the editing. I challenge you to go that much into details that I have done. It is really hard to sync stuff up that well. It takes much work and is one of the things that took most time. Some of the rendering artifacts were because the input footage was bad. We had to deal with different resolutions with different quality so it's hard to make it look great in 1080p when you also have to apply much editing to present the fight well. The intro was cut down on because I didn't want to delay any further. I don't remember any of your intros to be noticeable aside from the comedy value of the police video.
While different source material might indeed be hard to edit so that it all fits together, after say seven months of development, I for one, expected that I'm gonna get blown away by the visuals. When I saw static Mega, Vexor and Stabber threated with chroma key instead of 'WOAH' I was like 'eh?' Gods Coldblood, Don Peyote in Nanofiber Internal Structure or even Mr Hyde and Starfleetcommander have way better effects. I will even say that this is a downgrade to your RR Vexors and I'm sure those people and those videos didn't take months to edit.
As far as my videos go, I've been limited to Sony Vegas only and my video making process closes in six hours maximum. It took me six hours to do Perfect Insanity, mainly because I had to spend like an hour and a half watching tutorials for After Effects and getting to know the program and then render some simple intro and soundwaves.

I hope this won't turn into another NightmareX-like thread Cool


just fyi i put the stabber fight from kinborough as a suggestion for this fight. Regardless of how he kills the hostiles, he plays really smart. He is a quality pvper and does a fantastic job of setting up the fight. This is what solo is about, using ur head to beat multiple hostiles. He deserves the award for the tactics and engagement prowess alone and thats why he won.
adriaans
Ankaa.
Nair Al-Zaurak
#62 - 2014-11-13 23:23:16 UTC
While due to the wait, it is obviously extremely near impossible to live up to expectations so I shall skip that bit :P
Some of the clips I had already seen through other videos and thus it was also a little less exciting for me.

After having watched it multiple times, and read the comments here, I think some of the fights could have needed better representation in order to convey their importance of various parts, some was not very obvious on first watch.
(Don't ask me how, it has always been one of my own issues when making my own videos).

Btw, am curious, was the majority of clips submitted gallente ships flown?

Skyflyer, that kronos clip was impressive (even if you forgot to use the nos).

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Kor Kilden
Thukker Tribe Holdings Inc.
#63 - 2014-11-14 00:21:22 UTC
adriaans wrote:

Btw, am curious, was the majority of clips submitted gallente ships flown?


A breakdown of ships submitted is in the contest thread somewhere.
God's Apples
Wildcard.
Boundary Experts
#64 - 2014-11-14 01:06:33 UTC
Theronth Valarax wrote:
On the other hand it's still worth watching for at least a few fights in it. Earlier mentioned Naga and Navy Mega were awesome. Liked God's Apples Eagle, kinda reminded me of Garmonation except I think this fight was better than Garmons.


While I'm humbled you think my eagle fight was better than garmon's, it does go to show the lack of quality of fights. There weren't any ~bigplays~ and my tank wasn't really stressed at all either so if that's one of the best it's pretty sad what to think of the others. It annoys me that my best solo fight ever (the last fight of Elite Bandicam PvP 3) happened right after the deadline ((((.

Overall I think the video was decent. The pacing is really, really slow. I understand you were trying to match the speed with the tempo of the music, but it made some fights that could have easily been at 2.5x speed drag on forever and ever. If you or someone else wants to ever do a project like this again, remember: the fun part is getting people to go out an get the fights. If you put less stress on getting all the editing and whatever right, then you could make this a a bi- or tri-annual event where all of eve gets to submit their best solo fight they have during a certain period of a couple months, then you and some other people judge the fights, and after a weekend editing the whole thing it's out. Less stress, less overhype, more community involvement. A win-win imo.

"Hydra Reloaded are just jealous / butthurt on me / us because we can get tons of PVP action in empire while they aren't good enough to get that." - NightmareX

Hairpins Blueprint
The Northerners
Northern Coalition.
#65 - 2014-11-14 08:17:06 UTC
FINALLY !!!!!!! \\\o///
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#66 - 2014-11-14 09:26:05 UTC
Kor Kilden wrote:
adriaans wrote:

Btw, am curious, was the majority of clips submitted gallente ships flown?


A breakdown of ships submitted is in the contest thread somewhere.


Here: http://starsurgeeve.wordpress.com/2014/04/05/one-man-crew-in-numbers/

I don't have a count on the full amount of gallente ships, but they make up 5 out of the 8 most common ships.

Gallente ships are very strong solo brawlers thus being very popular for this purpose.

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Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#67 - 2014-11-14 09:28:27 UTC
God's Apples wrote:

Overall I think the video was decent. The pacing is really, really slow. I understand you were trying to match the speed with the tempo of the music, but it made some fights that could have easily been at 2.5x speed drag on forever and ever. If you or someone else wants to ever do a project like this again, remember: the fun part is getting people to go out an get the fights. If you put less stress on getting all the editing and whatever right, then you could make this a a bi- or tri-annual event where all of eve gets to submit their best solo fight they have during a certain period of a couple months, then you and some other people judge the fights, and after a weekend editing the whole thing it's out. Less stress, less overhype, more community involvement. A win-win imo.


It is intentional that the speed wasn't that high. Many newer players often comment on pvp videos that it is too fast for them to follow the details. So we have tried to find the balance point.

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Gorski Car
#68 - 2014-11-14 10:02:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Gorski Car
Run the video at 3x speed so we can sort out the casuals!

There is no better tribute to aldap then the stabber fight where gateguns do all the job

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l0rd carlos
the king asked me to guard the mountain
#69 - 2014-11-14 17:30:18 UTC
I watched the eve-files version on a large screen with no distractions :)
Was pretty dang. I truly enjoyed it.

Nano mega was a nice change.

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Daide Vondrichnov
French Drop-O-Panache
Snuffed Out
#70 - 2014-11-14 23:50:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Daide Vondrichnov
Nice vid, maybe i didnt enjoyed it as much as i should have as i was expecting a lot about these fights but it look like some of the release are better in my pov but well^^.

Good job anyways, i hope that you'll try to organize another one.
Jason Ozran
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#71 - 2014-11-15 01:52:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Jason Ozran
Bunch of good fights here and there (Eagle/Mega Navy/Phoenix especially). But about 50% takes place in nullsec gate camp, known as a gathering of the best players of this game, so some variety would have been appreciated (Factional Warfare ? Belts ?). Some show some massive derp ending well just because opponent didn't use orbit (so many static targets...) or their warp disruptor...or that Kronos warping to the sun AND not using his NOS for the whole fight while consuming cap boosters >.>

I still believe that frigates have their place in such a contest, and they are enjoyable in the fact that their are cheap, effective and die fast making things dynamic, especially in a video. It would also motivate new players in trying solo. Cause as much as I love the spirit behing these projects (props all involved btw), to actually do any of this, it will take you months if not years (except maybe for the T1 cruiser and BC cases), since basic skills matter a lot in solo PVP. And it requires decent piloting when you do solo frigate without links against multiple targets since any mistake means you're basically dead. Please consider it if there is more of those videos to be made in the future, cause you would for sure get great footage :)

Not mentioning the links cause this is endless debate #NeverForgetKateMosh o7
sajuukkhar69
Borean Freeze
#72 - 2014-11-15 16:48:01 UTC
Tracks used: "Flesh Field – The Collapse"
Was worth the 1 year wait just because you added Flesh field to the tracks. Seriously.
Could have used some psytrance also.
Ares Desideratus
UNSAFE SPACE
#73 - 2014-11-15 17:07:18 UTC
Gorski Car wrote:
Run the video at 3x speed so we can sort out the casuals!

There is no better tribute to aldap then the stabber fight where gateguns do all the job

I think speed of the video should be situational, sometimes you want it slowed down for dramatic effect and other times you want it super speedy to get to the point but I hate it when a video is zooming by so fast that I can barely keep up with what`s going on!

I thought this was a great video by the way, every fight was pretty damn good if not great and the editing was good music was good, lots of variety in the types of fights as well, you got a solo pheonix a nano Navy Megathron, some great T1 cruiser footage and some great brawling.

The only thing that was missing was a good frigate fight, would have been nice to see a frigate destroying everything.
Viribus
1st Reddit Kiev Defense Brigade
#74 - 2014-11-16 00:34:05 UTC
Ares Desideratus wrote:
The only thing that was missing was a good frigate fight, would have been nice to see a frigate destroying everything.


They didn't take frigate submissions. Frig pvp vids are already a diamond dozen







Also frig PVP is boring
Ares Desideratus
UNSAFE SPACE
#75 - 2014-11-16 21:59:54 UTC
Viribus wrote:
Ares Desideratus wrote:
The only thing that was missing was a good frigate fight, would have been nice to see a frigate destroying everything.


They didn't take frigate submissions. Frig pvp vids are already a diamond dozen







Also frig PVP is boring


If there was some frig going beastmode destroying everything I don't see how it shouldn't be included in such a video.

The fact that there are so many frig videos just means you would be more likely to get some epic footage.
Sushi Nardieu
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#76 - 2014-11-17 06:56:12 UTC
Really good video. I hope for the continued contribution of PVPers for the next episode.

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Kendra Katana
The Hardshell
#77 - 2014-11-17 09:25:59 UTC
As someone stated, video uses lots of clips that we could already seen, however it's still an awesome compilation of solo fights.
Nicely edited, not really my type of music but oh well. Anyhow, good job!

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Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
#78 - 2014-11-17 11:12:42 UTC
I see people complaining about not good fights here.. but i dont recognise any names here other than a couple as quality soloers. If you think u can do better. GO AND DO IT. If this helps inspire solo pvp, then our job is done :)
Gorski Car
#79 - 2014-11-17 13:35:12 UTC
Buhhdust Princess wrote:
I see people complaining about not good fights here.. but i dont recognise any names here other than a couple as quality soloers. If you think u can do better. GO AND DO IT. If this helps inspire solo pvp, then our job is done :)


Omc season 2 when??))

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Ares Desideratus
UNSAFE SPACE
#80 - 2014-11-17 15:59:41 UTC
Yeah anyone complaining about quality of fights I don't even know what to say.

I thought all the fights were really good and most were actually great.