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Bigger (trash) cans

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Dustpuppy
New Eden Ferengi
#1 - 2014-11-12 16:29:49 UTC
Biggest probable "can" I can use to store inventory is 4000m^3 (mobile depot), the biggest unprobable can which can be anchored and doesn't disappear after a too short period is the Giant secure container with 3900m^3

Would be nice to have another bigger version which could be anchored and used to store more than the current ones.


I laughed when I saw the size of the enormous freight container and the possibility to use it as "storage place behind enemy lines" and I cried when I learned the hard way that it despawns during downtime. Outdated info on the inet, well...
Iain Cariaba
#2 - 2014-11-12 17:09:32 UTC
Dustpuppy wrote:
Biggest probable "can" I can use to store inventory is 4000m^3 (mobile depot), the biggest unprobable can which can be anchored and doesn't disappear after a too short period is the Giant secure container with 3900m^3

Would be nice to have another bigger version which could be anchored and used to store more than the current ones.


I laughed when I saw the size of the enormous freight container and the possibility to use it as "storage place behind enemy lines" and I cried when I learned the hard way that it despawns during downtime. Outdated info on the inet, well...

Train an alt to use a hauler with a cloaking device, or use multiple cans.

If you want more than that, set up a POS.

Can sizes are fine the way they are.
Dustpuppy
New Eden Ferengi
#3 - 2014-11-13 08:43:20 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:

Train an alt to use a hauler with a cloaking device, or use multiple cans.

If you want more than that, set up a POS.

Can sizes are fine the way they are.


Can't put up a POS permanently, I am in SOV area of another Corp, and they get informed automatically if I place a POS (which is an error I hate, it makes their renter space a self sustaining paradise) and leave it there.

Can't leave the hauler there, it needs to be replaced by another ship but have to use something like a POS because the items I have in cargo in my hauler are too big for a can and the replacement ship has less cargo space.

So again I am limited in doing what CCP wants: give small gangs/groups a real chance and an opportunity to invade nullsec. Nullsec is dead at the moment as long as you refuse to become a renter. And I don't want to pay the big headed ones so they become even bigger and can suppress smaller groups even more.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#4 - 2014-11-13 10:06:38 UTC
I'm very much in the "setting up POSes should not send alliance mails" camp, but any change on that front won't come until later.

Have you considered somehow getting a cloaky orca in?
Dustpuppy
New Eden Ferengi
#5 - 2014-11-13 11:07:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Dustpuppy
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
I'm very much in the "setting up POSes should not send alliance mails" camp, but any change on that front won't come until later.

Have you considered somehow getting a cloaky orca in?



I have a cloaky orca in so I am fine. I am just thinking about mechanisms /ways to make it easier at all for small groups or single players to go to nullsec. Not everyone has an alt which can be used for weeks as "POS replacement" and while I can anchor multiple containers (which I also have, I think I have spread 10-12 of them in null) there still is the size restrictions of 3900m^3 which limits the size of stuff I plan to store. With a bigger container I might be able to leave a small POS, some modules and fuel behind which could be built up and teared down after the usage before the owner arrives and saves me the time of unachoring the structures.

I also thought about a mobile structure like a cloaky small ship /inventory hangar which consums some fuel to upkeep the cloak and the last idea was the removal of the automatic notification to the SOV owner in case someone places a POS.

At the moment the situation still favors the big players. Zero time investment, 100% control over their region and a big fleet which can wipe out anything trying to sneak in. As long as this doesn't change null won't change which is a shame.
Tabyll Altol
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2014-11-13 12:51:35 UTC
Dustpuppy wrote:
Biggest probable "can" I can use to store inventory is 4000m^3 (mobile depot), the biggest unprobable can which can be anchored and doesn't disappear after a too short period is the Giant secure container with 3900m^3

Would be nice to have another bigger version which could be anchored and used to store more than the current ones.


I laughed when I saw the size of the enormous freight container and the possibility to use it as "storage place behind enemy lines" and I cried when I learned the hard way that it despawns during downtime. Outdated info on the inet, well...


Use a pos.

-1
Dustpuppy
New Eden Ferengi
#7 - 2014-11-13 13:00:36 UTC
Tabyll Altol wrote:
[quote=Dustpuppy]
Use a pos.

-1


You didn't really read, huh? No POS because enemy SOV and an automatic invitation is sent to the owner "kick me, I am here" as soon as I anchor it.
Ceawlin Cobon-Han
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-11-13 13:54:30 UTC
I'm all for this. Perhaps make it a T2 version of the GSC, so there would be the invention process to go through; risk/reward and all that. Double the capacity for the same volume. Harder to kill (more EHP) and, as it's T2, relatively expensive compared to the T1.

+1
Ceawlin Cobon-Han
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-11-13 14:01:30 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:

Train an alt to use a hauler with a cloaking device, or use multiple cans.

If you want more than that, set up a POS.

Can sizes are fine the way they are.

Try reading before leaping at an opportunity to look 'cool'. Not everyone is a drooling fanatic who has multiple accounts. As to tthe idea of multiple cans: a society that can build titans can't build a bigger can? Makes no sense. As to the fail idea of a POS: the man stated quite clearly "behind enemy lines", so no chance of erecting a POS.

You are quite clearly not up on game mechanics. May I suggest you learn some, as you have made yourself look a complete noob?