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Pirate in highsec

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LiquidDreams
Rock Eaters
#1 - 2014-11-09 18:54:28 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
hi i sent this to gm

hi i have played eve for some years now and pirates in highsec such as code has completely control over the highsec udermen and other gate that goes to Amarr it was so bad because concord does not intervene and they can bump you so far away from the gate they can kill a charon 15 sec inclu capler. it's just not good enough fine high sec you can die but once this is how everyone just flies in a charon second trade ship can be killed as fast without corcord coming so I see it as a serious problem that you can settle for 10 play in a destroyer that costs 20 mil to the fit that can awfully a ship to billions even with minus 10.0 standing and I hat 5.0 plus comes concord and not interfering now I hear from other transport ships they do not want to play or stop because the is so good and cheap loss for the pirates that it is not hamonere and it is pure suicide just pick up contacts and flee through these areas from jita to dodixie and Amarr .. I will not play anymore eve before in taking care of high sec and make it fairer for it does not pay to continue playing for Ganket be more in highsec compared to lowsec where it is much more safe ..

You can say this is the game, but it all too easy for pirates to settle in highsec and have -10-0 standing should concord also attack those who have -5.0-6.0 but if not you can ride more without being knocked down and while you lose maybe everything in relation to the 20 mil they lose, it's just not fair low sec was supposed to be for pirates not highsec and as it looks now I'm afraid to lose the game to play because there is more piracy in the high in compared to low sec.

I go on break for the start change it here.
it could possibly be to get missions for people with high bounty lavstanding as one can get through missions, etc. to keep them away from highsec or keep them down but concond does not work they are worthless and 10 destroyer should not be enough to take a charon down even with full armor so they can do it in very few sec we're talking about a minimum of 20 ships to kill so big Tagat ..

feedback

*Snip* Please refrain from posting GM correspondence. ISD Ezwal.

WHAT DO YOU SAY ? i know more an more player there quit before they ever get startet becouse of this code an other pirate can gank as they like with out bounty or minus standing work good anogf..
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-11-09 18:58:40 UTC
Wat?

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#3 - 2014-11-09 19:02:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
you know you can shortcut through Vecamia and avoid uedama all together,
i frequent there often and iv only lost one ship there.


Edit: also , the gms are going to belt you one for posting their communications on the forumsBlink
Mag's
Azn Empire
#4 - 2014-11-09 19:17:45 UTC
LiquidDreams wrote:
You can say this is the game, but it all too easy for pirates to settle in highsec and have -10-0 standing should concord also attack those who have -5.0-6.0 but if not you can ride more without being knocked down and while you lose maybe everything in relation to the 20 mil they lose, it's just not fair low sec was supposed to be for pirates not highsec and as it looks now I'm afraid to lose the game to play because there is more piracy in the high in compared to low sec.
Concord do not shot pilots for having -10 standing, that's your job. If you think life is too easy for them in high sec, do something about it in game. Stop looking for hand holding from CCP.

Also, reported for ranting and the posting of GM correspondence.

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#5 - 2014-11-09 19:27:06 UTC
tldr; There are "bad" people in high-sec that break my illusion of safety and "fairness." I offer up no feature or idea, just an angry rant, and have posted GM correspondence... both of which are against forum rules.

LiquidDreams wrote:
hi i have played eve for some years now and pirates in highsec such as code has completely control over the highsec udermen and other gate that goes to Amarr

So what are you going to do about it?

Also... they do not "control" anything. They just give the impression that they control high-sec. You have the ability to avoid them if you put in the same amount of effort that they put into ganking.


LiquidDreams wrote:
it was so bad because concord does not intervene and they can bump you so far away from the gate they can kill a charon 15 sec inclu capler.
... (snip)...
I see it as a serious problem that you can settle for 10 play in a destroyer that costs 20 mil to the fit that can awfully a ship to billions even with minus 10.0 standing
... (snip)...
it is not hamonere and it is pure suicide
...(snip)...
I will not play anymore eve before in taking care of high sec and make it fairer for it does not pay to continue playing for Ganket be more in highsec compared to lowsec where it is much more safe ..

- CONCORD has always been a reactionary/punitive force. They are not there to save people.

- Bumping has been rules as "legitimate gameplay" as long as it does not become "harassment" (which means you have to be bumped for 15-30+ minutes or more with no end in sight).

- Being bigger and more expensive does not mean you are immune (or even resistant) to attack from smaller, cheaper ships. In fact, being bigger and more expensive makes you more vulnerable to smaller and cheaper ships.
Carriers have died to frigates!

- EVE is a game based on conflict and feeding conflict. There is no harmony here.

- High-sec was never designed to be safe. It is merely safer relative to other areas of space.
And pirates will always go where people have money.


LiquidDreams wrote:
You can say this is the game, but it all too easy for pirates to settle in highsec and have -10-0 standing should concord also attack those who have -5.0-6.0 but if not you can ride more without being knocked down and while you lose maybe everything in relation to the 20 mil they lose, it's just not fair low sec was supposed to be for pirates not highsec and as it looks now I'm afraid to lose the game to play because there is more piracy in the high in compared to low sec.

- As long as you are allowed to affect people in any way you like, other people can affect you in any way they like. And yes, hauling stuff does affect people... because it affects the markets... which affects wars and profit margins.

- First Rule of EVE: never fly what you cannot afford to lose.
Treat each time you undock as if it is the last time you will undock. EVE was never designed to be safe unless you are willing to apply effort into making yourself safe.

- If the gankers are below -5.0 security status then you (or your friends) are free to shoot at them and kill them on sight.

LiquidDreams wrote:
it could possibly be to get missions for people with high bounty lavstanding as one can get through missions, etc. to keep them away from highsec or keep them down but concond does not work they are worthless and 10 destroyer should not be enough to take a charon down even with full armor so they can do it in very few sec we're talking about a minimum of 20 ships to kill so big Tagat ..

- Bounties don't work for many reasons.

- If you want to kill bad people, go out and kill them. You do not need a mission to tell you to do that.

- Again... being bigger and more expensive does not mean you are immune (or even resistant) to attack from smaller, cheaper ships. In fact, being bigger and more expensive makes you more vulnerable to smaller and cheaper ships.
Carriers have died to frigates!

LiquidDreams wrote:
WHAT DO YOU SAY ? i know more an more player there quit before they ever get startet becouse of this code an other pirate can gank as they like with out bounty or minus standing work good anogf..

If people are quitting because the reality of EVE did not match their expectations (i.e. that high-sec was safe when in reality it is not) then they would not have stayed much longer in EVE.

perception of a problem =/= a problem
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#6 - 2014-11-09 20:14:47 UTC
As this is neither a proposal for a new feature or a new idea, this thread gets a lock. Posting GM correspondence does not help either.

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