Test Server Feedback

No, no and again NO. This is terrible, it looks like designers in ccp do not undersatnd that we DO NOT WANT beaty, sparkle, neon buttons, we just need simple things, which can really be helpfull during the game and this design isnt helpfull in any way AT ALL.
Icons just terrible, EVE isnt web site where must be tons of flat icons menus and etc. Please do not make changes like this, ive just get my subscribe after 5 month delay becase of jump drive changes and other REALLY interesting and right fixes. So guess what then? I see that *bad words* which totally forcing me to close Eve again. Thats all

There is only 1 way when everybody can be happy - add current UI as optional to new version AND THATS ALL .

Imho new fully-transparent context menus need a tweak. They have to be opaque because I can't see a thing when they overlap other windows.

After some testing i was surprised how good actually the new UI is. It is really easier to work with new abstract icons instead of that old fashioned pseudo 3d icons. Transparency effect is really amazing! Finally i can see more of the space behind all windows. I hope you will keep on removing the excel-look and adding more of sci-fi look into the game!
What about negative feedback - there will be allways ppl who just stick to old thing despite of how bad they are and cant accept anything new. So dont let you discourage yourself by such posts.

Why would you need the borders to be thick?
Its a waste of space.


@ the UI
I like the design.
But it's functionally the same.

You will still end up zooming out to obscene magnitudes so you can see everything within 200km.

Though minimising the UI so you can see more space is always good.

Hope you can make the NEOCOM pop out when you move your mouse to the left border, and then disappear when you're done interacting with it.

Why is there everytime some guys who can't just read arguments and admit they exist and are consistent, why?

How can you watch some of the above screenshots where things a barely readable or even simply visible and seriously say: "Hey guys, well done! You did a really great job! o7"

You must be kidding...



This already exists (right click your Neocom)...

I have some problems with this interfase at SiSe
1) Left side panel. It's hard to understand what icon mean.
Even when I'll get used to new icons this 3 is too similar. http://c2n.me/jfeLNr

2) Minimum size of chat columns.
I don't read local chat. But I need to see list of chat members. So I reduce localchat chat column to minimum to see only list of members.
In new interface minimum chat column size is about 2 times bigger. For me it mean less usefull spase.

3) Stantion servise icons. They are terrible. They are too similar. Better just trash them. Really, I use only LP-store and medical bay from that group. Everething else I use different way (repair/fitting/etc)

4) Less flexible options. Some colour themes isn't enouph. I what to see here choose betwen old and new icons and all old options.

5) No colours. NO COLOURS!!! Only coloufull places in this interface are my portrait, undock&angar buttons and NEX store

Feedback:

There are a couple icons that very very ambiguous and need to be replaced with something more intuitive. The two I noticed:

• Tutorial Icon (This is huge, it's key for new players)
• ISIS Icon

Also, the background of the active chat tab is too bright for me to read the text. Picture

Paging through the comments above I see a lot of hate for the new simplified icons, which I don't really understand. I am always getting the current (TQ-style) icons mixed up, and I feel like the "simpler glyph-like icon" approach is going to make life easier. That said, there are several of the new icons that look much too similar, which is very bad. There's also some shapes that are used in icons that don't really have anything to do with one another (eg: inventory/compare tool both use a "box", but aren't really related) which would make them confusing to learn. There are a couple of icons that I think are placeholders as well. I'm guessing these are all in-progress, so I'm eager to see what the final state will be.

Lists of stuff need to be broken up somehow (either line breaks or alternating colors) since they all seem to be merged into a uniform background right now.

More customizability would be nice. Sliders for the selected/background/camera-pan transparency levels would be good. Being able to choose individual colors would be good. Couple options for window borders would be nice. I'm guessing this is probably planned already.

Generally I like it. Overall direction seems good to me.

>colors
most of them are ok, but minmatar just looks....pink. I hope this one will get a little more tweaking.

>tabs

In the blog post i got the impression ya'll wanted to invoke some real world instrument panels. so when I look at the tabs, all i can think of is an annunciation panel.

that said, the inactive tabs look fine. the active tabs do not. bright color with white text on top of it doesn't look good. well, seeing as I am no designer, i'll just say that it stands out to me and i find it irritating. i have to strain too much to read which tabs/buttons are selected because there isn't enough contrast. this applies to other buttons elsewhere in the interface as well.

here are real life annunciator panels.

http://www.trottercontrols.com/tc-content/products/LEDannunciatorpanel/20091007-9147-warninglights.jpg

http://home.hccnet.nl/jwopdenakker/image/hessel%20annunciatorpanel.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7153/6670946893_1b27e02fd1_z.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JmOD6pf0Yy8/UcPZjfWqEPI/AAAAAAAAAs8/C9rKgtYWWeo/s1600/BK-117+Caution+Panel+-+WEB+3.jpg

https://missions.capnhq.gov/ops/dot/school/C172r1_files/slide0021_image083.jpg

i think you can see what I am trying to point out. annunciators are either black text on a light, or lit text on a dark/opaque background. Have you guys experimented with something like that?

>new icons

I feel like I am using some kind of ubuntu fork. in the tranq interface, i can find icons by color, shape, and distinctive features. not so much anymore. im trying to get over the whole...you know...everything is different so i have to do all kinds of mental translations and whatnot. i think I can get past that for most things (wallet, assets, map, mail, repairs,LP, sov, and fleet), there are a few that i REALLY hope you revisit or replace (clone bay, inventory, implants, jump clones, employment history, standings, and browser), and there are a few that I just kinda hope you rethink (people+places, skills, insurance, bounty office, fitting, market, and corporation)

>final thoughts

I, and at least a few others, are really wondering why you are even doing this. eve's interface doesn't look old at all and I am surprised to hear that anyone even thinks that.

further, no functionality in the interface seems to be changing at all. no gameplay has really changed to force an interface re-skin like this (because that's what it is), and it kind of feels like change for the sake of change and not to satisfy any game requirement.

****.it doesn't even seem 'modernized' at all. i feel like I am staring at a recolored macbook desktop from 2006 or something.

I'm totally indifferent to the Neocom icons, but I would very much appreciate it if there was a way to make an unpinned window plain boring white on black - when I have a window unpinned, I want to read the words in it as easily as possible, not see through it, and my eyes aren't all they could be these days - and a pinned window unblurred, much like one is today - when I have a window pinned, I want to see through it properly, not smear Vaseline on the view.

(I might have got "pin" and "unpin" the wrong way around, sigh).