EVE General Discussion

hi

so me and a friend were shooting a pos once and we were using domis (drones, no reload, ultimate afk)

we used heavy drones (t2 preators) because in the eve fitting window we got more dps out of them, compared to curators (EM was the best damage to use).

we were wondering if while the heavy drones do more dps than the sentry drones, if the sentry drones alpha is higher would they have been a better choice for bashing the pos, to make it go quicker?

any insight on these drones is useful.

sorry I didnt mention, it was an offline tower. no shield.

thats why I had the option to either use heavies or sentries, just wondering which one is the best for quickest highest dps to get the job done.

Heavies if it's offline. Have to use sentries for an online one.

The ROF of sentries and Heavies is the same IIRC - so the "alpha" is purely the result of the Sentries not needing to move before firing... and on that sort of HP mass its effect would be negligable, far outweighed by the higher DPS of the Heavies.

Making things go quicker (marginally) without losing the low maintenance approach is probably the job of lasers... The Oracle may be a better option than your current Domis, but you could just fit lasers to the Domis themselves. I immediately thought of the 'geddon but I can't recall if it has additional fitting for lasers compared to the Domi these days - the higher BS skill is the key consideration as so much comes from the drones, shoehorning on extra damage from a ship which has a lesser damage bonus due to the pilot's skills is pointless.

Perhaps the Navy 'Geddon is the only "better" choice (as it's built like the old 'geddon, with 125MBits for drones and high laser damage).

Ogre II: 4.0s RoF, 1.7 Damage modifier, 64 thermal damage.
Garde II: 4.0s RoF, 1.92 Damage modifier, 64 thermal damage.



Shooting at a pos though, Offline = heavies, online = sentries.

EDITED FOR ACCURALITY

Thank you for showing that highsec needs a safety nerf.

Nope, my numbers are wrong. server was on DT or something so I checked numbers online and the eve wiki or something gave me old values. They are infact yes, 1.7 on garde, 1.92 on ogre, which fully explains why heavies do more damage. Thankyou =)

You're wrong there. A rattlesnake (with minimum skills) with pure drones has DPS = to a domi with Gal BSV. Let's say drones each heavy does 1 DPS. A rattlesnake has 50mb bandwidth (2 heavies) and a 275% damage role bonus. so the 2 heavies are = to 7.5. A dominix has 125mb bandwidth (5 heavies) and gets a 10% damage bonus / level of gal bs. So at V, it's 5+50%. 7.5. And the rattlesnake then has the DPS from missiles, but I wouldn't use those on a bash. A typical RS pve fit is still getting more DPS from a 4th dda compared to using a 3rd BCS, so the lows are typically something like 4DDA:2BCS, shield mods (and maybe prop mod/drone mods) in mids (XLSB is popular) and then launchers (does it have utility highs? I can't remember) in the highs. Cruise seems to be the most used.

Did the sums, I think heavies still do a bit more damage, at least vs something as large as a pos. Looking at drone stats they have the tracking to cope with their orbit: eg ogre2 on a non-bonused ship, no drone mods fitted, orbits at 2800 (within its optimal so that's not a factor) at 300m/sec, for an angular velocity of around 0.11. It tracks far better than this, at 0.54, resulting in hit chances of basically 100%.


For afk pos bash, as someone else said: laser domi looks good for afk work, fairly cheap, 1400dps and doesn't need reloaded. The new max speed rigs might be useful too, a Domi could stay aligned at 26m/sec - you'd only need turn it around every hour.

Common misconception. The POS bubble is not a shield. It is a FORCE FIELD that is pw protected that keeps unauthorized ships at a minimum distance depending on size. The actual POS structure is just like a ship.. Shield / Armor / Structure.

The bubble is not a shield.