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seruis problem with Pirats in highsec.

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LiquidDreams
Rock Eaters
#1 - 2014-10-29 20:35:32 UTC  |  Edited by: LiquidDreams
have written to your technical department about this has been a serious problem with it is so easy for pirates to shoot charon obelisk and other large vessels down Billions of isk in losses in highsec where the can do with 10-11 destoyers 10 -12 sec and experiences a loss of 120 mil now I experience hvorde code has taken udermen they control everything between Amarr and Jita Bumper away and can kill you without concord doing something completely even with +5.0 standing so there was no help and now I know many who do not bother playing more because highsec has been Pirate area and it can not be really that 10-11 vessels can destroy such a large ship or for that matter, pushing it away if you do not have the same mass as the ship have.
and then there is the understanding you have less than -5.0 should concord be there right away because they are lawless and concord ought shoot them but they will not be accessible for high sec just may be Controlled by pirates I do not want play more before you do do something about this problem because I do not think it is ok I ship 2 bil in the cargo lose a ship to a 1.4 bil + clone and pirates can get 120 mil and constantly Ganke matter how much less understanding they get it has no meaning for them to concord it destroys highsec that so many pirates can just that so many pirates can just settle in 0.5 and kill as large ships of 10-12 sec. and they are allowed ruining so many players who might lose everything and give up the game entirely because they are being killed and murdered in highsec space and may have staked everything on transport and they can not be allowed to fly to dodixie or Amarr because being two areas are controls by pirates who kills everything even if you fly 20 times with a good Reward and use 24 hours on it serves you never enough to cover your loss of the ship .. and now my two friends away because they can not fly with the skills they have trained in highsec because you can just fly around -10 understanding and pirates can simply Ganke you without it costing them isk and not consistent with the low standing of the concord.

-5.0+ You could be high without concord shoot you
2. Do you have +5.0 standing concord should be much faster and help you.
3. a ship should not be pushing charon away if it does not have a great lot of it is completely illogical that a frigate can push one charon away or a destroyer.
3 it should cost a lot more shooting a Charron and must not be achieved at 10-11 Destroyer of 10-12 sec for pirates should not just be awfully 2-4 bil and only have a loss of 120 mil if concord head bother coming ago I started playing then highsec playing by the costs the eve plays it's so easy to just settle in highsec without it costing them a loss. and can destroy 1000billions and it costs them 15-20b and so they serve lots of money on ha checks in highsec. concord and understanding the system is totally useless
and should do missions you could pick on and get extra bounty on the pirates who have bounty on over a certain limit. so you can try to keep them in check in a more fair manner by the by if they get shot it freely in highsec if they have - plus a high bounty.
this is a serious problem cpp is forced to take care of because I also sit on several channels where they talk about stopping because of pirates have been so easily destroy all the play in highsec without some kind of concord is of use to them with high standing and it's as good a deal for them that they can make billions when day by killing the rest of us who will be working for weeks to make just a ship.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#2 - 2014-10-29 20:40:21 UTC
Sorry for your loss(es?). Unfortunately, high sec was not meant to be safe and shipping lanes have always been meant to be open to disruption by player actions.

In the future, I suggest running a webbing alt for near instant warp. It would have prevented many if not all of your issues. Also? You might want to consider using your low slots to fit a tank.
Ix Method
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-10-29 20:41:16 UTC
Take a deep breath or two, stand up and go make a cup of tea. Stare out the window for a few minutes, it'll do you good.

Then come back and start again.

Welcome to Eve.

Travelling at the speed of love.

Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-10-29 20:41:51 UTC
That's a whole lot of text and all I could get out of it is nerf ganking and I will go ahead and say no.

Only thing I saw mildly interesting was the player sec status changing CONCORD response time but it's kinda really trivial to grind and keep up so it would need to be current response time requiring at least like 4.5 or something so it **** over new player who can't fly grinding machine while anybody already in game for years could grind it REALLY fast and get the bonus. Change being worst to new player are kinda dumb imo so it's still a no.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#5 - 2014-10-29 20:59:41 UTC
How many people do you need for an 0.5 freighter gank anyway? 10? 20?
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#6 - 2014-10-29 21:16:38 UTC
OP, I agree with you, the police are not effectively punishing the criminals, resulting in an explosion of criminal activity.
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#7 - 2014-10-29 21:17:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Rroff
LiquidDreams wrote:

-5.0+ You could be high without concord shoot you


Drugs are bad.

(Unless your a capital pilot with Neurotoxin Recovery trained to V).
Iain Cariaba
#8 - 2014-10-29 21:34:55 UTC
Research the many ways on how not to get ganked. Number one is don't put cargo expanders on your freighter. Number two is don't put more than 1bil isk worth of stuff in the freighter (which you didn't seem to do this time.) Number three is don't fly a freighter through Uedama when CODE. and MiniLuv are operating in system.

The wrong answer is to come on forums and sh**post an unformatted, eye burning wall of rage calling for more nerfs to ganking.

Oh yeah, welcome to EvE.
Paranoid Loyd
#9 - 2014-10-29 21:38:46 UTC
Please read section 7 of the new player FAQ.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

baltec1
Bat Country
The Initiative.
#10 - 2014-10-29 21:42:57 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
How many people do you need for an 0.5 freighter gank anyway? 10? 20?


In this case the lucky number 13
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#11 - 2014-10-29 21:47:24 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
How many people do you need for an 0.5 freighter gank anyway? 10? 20?


Just 1 who can ISBox enough Taloses.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#12 - 2014-10-29 22:08:39 UTC
LiquidDreams wrote:
-5.0+ You could be high without concord shoot you



does this cover EWI (eve while intoxicated as well). Been known to play eve enjoying a few cold beers....I'd be sweating more stringent sobriety checkpoints.



Scout the route...
Fly better routes...
Fly non peak hours...
Bring a friend or alt (in corp) who can web you to launch faster...
if hauling that bad pay for red frog. Tack on collateral, they go boom, you still get paid.



High sec is not meant to be safe. My usual bit....ganking is empire's only economic control to keep bears from printing isk. The wh'er, the 0.0 types....they lose ships to pvp a few times in their eve career.

Same old story time.....I made 1+ billion one night in an officer spawn kill. And not even 2 weeks later easily half of that was gone in pvp losses not covered by any srp/frp. I made my isk and I gave some back in sacrificial offerings to the eve gods. If bears won't do this voluntarily, ccp put ganking in to get that sacrificial offering one way or the other.

Gay Pornstar
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-10-29 22:17:24 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
How many people do you need for an 0.5 freighter gank anyway? 10? 20?


Just 1 who can ISBox enough Taloses.


I think thats the only case where I actually support ISboxer.

There is an idea of a Gay Pornstar; some kind of abstraction. But there is no real me: only an entity, something illusory. And though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable... I simply am not there.

afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2014-10-29 22:21:48 UTC
So many better ways to lose a couple of billion.
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-10-29 22:24:55 UTC
There is nothing wrong with cloaking devices, local is the problem.


Wait, am I in the right thread?

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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#16 - 2014-10-29 22:44:01 UTC
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