EVE New Citizens Q&A

Hi folks,

Pretty much as the thread title suggests: when does one commonly use passive modules over active ones?

In this instance I'm talking about shield tanking. Most shield tanks have an EM hole, so folk tend to plug them with something like EM Ward Field II. Is there any mileage in general/normal use if you swapped that with an EM Ward Amplifier II?

Obviously, resist is decreased (by ~10% according to EFT), and you can't overheat the thing, but it doesn't require cap and (if I read my various bits of research correctly) is unaffected by getting neuted. So, is it purely the resist profile that means folk use active modules over passive ones?

Also, since I've been doing most of my stuff with shield tanked ships at the moment, does anyone have any comparisons to armour tanking, as I'm looking at that too, and am starting to get baffled?

Thanks,

Tim

Don't know about PVE.


For PVP, in a nutshell:

If you're flying solo, or in a gang without logi: both passive and active work, depending on the fit and tactics.

If you're flying with logi: always passive (no local reps), but you would use active resistance mods if you have enough cap (and enough cpu) and if you don't expect being heavily neuted.


Regarding armor vs. shield:

Shield is faster, does more damage (free low slots for dmg mods), catch reps faster (at beginning of cycle)

Armor is tankier (higher hp and higher resists) and lower sig radius, frees midslots for ewar or utility

Ah wonderful, thanks for that! I'd read the guide on E-Uni that Heather posted, which is what prompted the question in the first place.

As a follow on; how common is heavy neuting in the current meta?

It strikes me that given that most PvP fits I've seen so far rely on at least an AIF II amongst the tank mods, one only has to drop in a heavy neuting team to cap out the primary or logi (difficult given the logis will doubtless be packing mods to boost their cap) and resist profiles fall over, making for dead spaceships. Or have I misread that part of things?

And for clarity, given J'Poll's answer, I'm talking specifically about resistance modules. Unless I misread things (again, a distinct possibility), most PvP shield tanks look like they consist of buffer (LSE or similar) + resist mods, as you'd expect. Like I say, most fits I've seen consist of at least 1x AIF II with (mostly) an EM Ward Field II, as well as the S/M/L SE. When, for example, would it be better to go for an EM Ward Amplifier II over the EM Ward Field II?

Tim

Also, iirc an anti-em rig gives you better or equal resists than a passive midslot, so people often prefer to have a free midslot, if they don't think they really need the extra resist of an active midslot.

Also, keep in mind people usually try to go for an even resist profile, unless they know exactly what they'll be up against. So if an em rig is 'good enough' to more or less plug the resist hole they'll use that and free the midslot.

im not sure if im understanding this right

are you comparing the EM Ward Field II to the EM Ward Amplifier II?

If so the EM Ward field has 8% more resitance than the EM ward amplifier II.

EM Ward field II is active EM ward amplifier II is passive.

You get more reisists from active modules.

But the activated modules will put drain on ur capacitor passive modules will not.

So if your having cap problems might be better to swap out for EM Ward amplifier II.

Also will make ur cap last longer and ur resists not depend on having cap so defence against neuting.

lol

why do guys make female avatars?

is it to have something sexy to look at from time to time?

also not sure how common neuting is.

i did get capped out from a curse the other day, thoght i wud get away but he pointed me from some 50km! i think it was him anyway. might have thier pesky light tackle. who escaped becuase the curse capped me out and my point dropped.

man i suck at pvp

The more surprising thing is giving out your real name so freely. Most people go by the names of their characters, even if they are female. I go by so many names I will basically respond to anything, but not my real name.

Ralph,

It can be worse.

I once signed an official RL email with J'Poll

And smashed my head into the desk when I found it out after I hit the send button.

I still wonder how the face of the recipient would have looked like when he/she saw that.

JP



And I actually have a RL friend who also plays EVE and does just call me JP when we meet up somewhere...and I react to it.

Unfortunately I did not.

I did learn, do not forum post and write RL emails at the same time and alt-tab between them.