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scorchlikeshiswhiskey

Totally Abstract

O X I D E

Likes received: 435

#61 - 2014-10-22 14:20:58 UTC

CCP Goliath wrote:

I'm asking this only because I'm interested in words generally, and am likewise interested in the strong reaction to "blighted".

(Disclaimer: I have no skin in this name game, am not participating in the discussion that Paradox describes, I have no influence one way or the other over how items are named, and I don't feel strongly one way or the other about "blighted".)

Blight is a word used IRL mostly to describe plant disease, and secondarily as a general description for something that has been spoiled or damaged. What about it gives you such a strong "fantasy RPG" feeling? Is it the Undead Warcraft 3 sprawl thing?

In my opinion, blighted has taken on a fantasy connotation in the current era of gameplay. Whether you played WoW or Diablo or some other game, blighted was synonymous with cursed and, in games openly incorporating magic, they were weapons touched by "evil" magic that exacted a price for their use.
So, even though blight actually refers to a plant disease, with players it brings up memories of playing WoW, Diablo, Warcraft, etc... Also, it doesn't sound very "sci-fi'y"
(Diablo was the first thing I thought of, the WoT series was second)

Doomheim 228
Tikitina Doomheim Likes received: 228	#62 - 2014-10-22 14:22:54 UTC Alvatore DiMarco wrote: Is "Blighted" really the name you're going to use? Will we see "Cursed" and "Holy" and "Undead" weapons in the future? My reply may be a bit snarky, but I have a very real concern here. For the love of god, hire someone who can come up with Sci-Fi names. Or make your naming person stop playing WoW. What name theme would you suggest?

Milton Middleson

Rifterlings

Likes received: 580

#63 - 2014-10-22 14:23:07 UTC

CCP Goliath wrote:

'Blight' as the manifestation or domain of fantasyland BBEGs appears in WC3, Dragon Age, and Wheel of Time just off the top of my head and sounds very Warhammer Fantasy-ish to boot.

On the other hand 'blighted' is almost never used in normal discussions in English. Relatively few people pay attention to agriculture - outside a news article on the subject (which tend to be infrequent), you're unlikely to have much exposure to the conventional meaning of the word. So the fantasy meaning is going to predominate, at least within the Eve-playing subset of the population (who are disproportionately like to consume fantasy fiction).

Valterra Craven

Likes received: 606

#64 - 2014-10-22 14:24:49 UTC

CCP Goliath wrote:

Well think about it this way, if you look at how the name is used regularly IRL then how would that name apply to anything technology related? How does a plant "blight" metal??? Further to the point, why would anyone put a weapon on their ship that could potentially "blight" the rest of their ship? That's kinda the whole point of the name is that it spreads. A lot of people would put an "overcharged" weapon or a "precurser" one, but blighted??? No. I think not.

Seraphina Amaranth

Hedion University

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 24

#65 - 2014-10-22 14:25:38 UTC

afkalt wrote:

CCP Goliath wrote:

Blight is a word used IRL mostly to describe plant disease, and secondarily as a general description for something that has been spoiled or damaged. What about it gives you such a strong "fantasy RPG" feeling? Is it the Undead Warcraft 3 sprawl thing?

It's jarring next to this type of SciFi for me. It's reminiscent of corruption, demonic or something supernatural (perhaps too much time spent in the WH40k universe).

And yet, similar terms are perfectly okay in Sci Fi:

"The Carbon Plague"

"Nano-virus infection"

"Ecophage"

etc.

Nicholai Pestot

Recon and Reclamation

Likes received: 0

#66 - 2014-10-22 14:26:08 UTC

CCP Paradox wrote:

Archetype 66 wrote:

:)

What Kind of bonuses they provide ? +30 alpha ? Rof ? Omni dmg ?

We want you to try them out on Singularity as this is for feedback from the test server. If we were to write the numbers down, it would turn into just a number-crunching feedback post instead of people actually trying them out in game.

M8. Spreadsheets online isn't just a funny name.

Within 10 minutes of these going on the test server someone will screenshot/extract the stats and the number-crunching will start.

So just give us the stats.


Tikitina Doomheim Likes received: 228	#67 - 2014-10-22 14:26:24 UTC \| Edited by: Tikitina 1 BadAssMcKill wrote: I like Unstable more than Blighted Except we already have mods with this in there name that are not extremely overpowered, although it would be interesting to see them get the same effects. And we have "Ghoul" mods since the last 10 years. And Vampire.... Edit: And Infectious...

Abrupt Decay Deteriorated 84
Viscis Breeze Abrupt Decay Deteriorated Likes received: 84	#68 - 2014-10-22 14:26:55 UTC Natasia Nicia wrote: CCP as most people are saying naming needs some work's just not "spacey" enough, how about naming them "Catalysed" weapons rather than Blighted +1 Recruitment: http://bit.ly/1r4G5Pv Website: http://www.no-vacancies.net/ Channel: No Vacancies

CCP Goliath

C C P

C C P Alliance

Likes received: 3,092

#69 - 2014-10-22 14:27:52 UTC | Edited by: CCP Goliath

Adrie Atticus wrote:

CCP Goliath wrote:

It's the normal naming convention in fantasy literature and games, rarely used in sci-fi due to people usually connecting blight to plague, famine and disease. Even though many sci-fi writers (and tv series) drop the "Blight of the mankind" all the time, it's usually connected to loss, failure and death. It's not a bad word, just not really used in sci-fi, more in fantasy and high fantasy.

I think "Normal" might be the wrong word, but maybe "natural" might suit better? Doing some research I've dug up a few references to blight. We've got a location in The Wheel of Time series, a location in Worlds of the Imperium, some malfunctioning terraforming microbes, a T.E.S. disease, an alien race in DC comics, a Transformer, a baddy in seminal cartoon classic "Captain Planet" and of course the aforementioned WC3. This is around a 50/50 split to 75/25 split of fantasy/scifi, depending on your definitions of them both I guess. This leads me to draw the conclusion that it's a word that people think is cool, maybe even quite badass, despite its most common usage to be to describe bad potatoes Big smile

EDIT: Missed out on like, half of the Nurgle forces of WH40k, but you get the idea Smile

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath


Seraphina Amaranth Hedion University Amarr Empire Likes received: 24	#70 - 2014-10-22 14:29:37 UTC \| Edited by: Seraphina Amaranth 7 Tikitina wrote: What name theme would you suggest? Endophagic lit. 'eats within'

John Caffeine

Aliastra

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 30

#71 - 2014-10-22 14:30:59 UTC | Edited by: John Caffeine

Looking at the stats ingame, these guns seem very underwhelming.

Blighted Mega Pulse has a RoF of 7.20s compared to the normal 7.88, and a damage modifier of 3.8 instead of the normal 3.6 one. Tracking is 0.0375 instead of 0.3375, and range is 20.6+6 instead of 24+8.

So damage wise you gain a bit of dps and tracking while losing some range. Not really worth trading all your resists for.

New name suggestion: "Underwhelming".

Ravcharas

Infinite Point

Pandemic Horde

Likes received: 505

#72 - 2014-10-22 14:34:50 UTC

John Caffeine wrote:

Unless of course you don't care about your tank for some reason.

Grrr Marmite

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Bright Onyx Savage Blizzard Likes received: 5	#73 - 2014-10-22 14:34:50 UTC 2 Hmm blighted guns.. How about made them to inflict blight to a hiitted vessel. Thus inflicting DoT and illness to the vessel.

The Scope Gallente Federation 76
Ian Praetorius The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 76	#74 - 2014-10-22 14:36:40 UTC 3 Bright Onyx wrote: Hmm blighted guns.. How about made them to inflict blight to a hiitted vessel. Thus inflicting DoT and illness to the vessel. :getout:


Milton Middleson Rifterlings Likes received: 580	#75 - 2014-10-22 14:42:46 UTC This is a terrible, hideous idea, but I'm going to post it anyway: make the damage increase proportional to the lost resists. So if you have an average resist of 80%, you get more extra damage than if you have an average resist of 30%.

afkalt

Republic Military School

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 2,510

#76 - 2014-10-22 14:45:10 UTC

Seraphina Amaranth wrote:

afkalt wrote:

CCP Goliath wrote:

It's jarring next to this type of SciFi for me. It's reminiscent of corruption, demonic or something supernatural (perhaps too much time spent in the WH40k universe).

And yet, similar terms are perfectly okay in Sci Fi:

"The Carbon Plague"

"Nano-virus infection"

"Ecophage"

etc.

None of those hold supernatural connotations though, blighted does - to me at least.

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Powers Sa Likes received: 1,400	#77 - 2014-10-22 14:48:49 UTC 1 Glad to see these are mostly short range and forcing people to semi-commit. long range guns would be pure aids. Do you like winning t2 frigs and dictors for Dirt Cheap?https://eveninggames.net/register/ref/dQddmNgyLhFBqNJk Remeber: Gambling addiction is no laughing matter unless you've lost a vast space fortune on the internet.

War Kitten

Panda McLegion

Likes received: 6,203

#78 - 2014-10-22 14:51:48 UTC

I can sort of see it - your ship is infected with a resistance blight.

But to me, this is a new technology, right? And we don't invent technology and market it for the drawbacks it might have, we focus on the positives.**

These should definitely be vorpal weapons.

** (Well, except for new medications which, by law, now have to scare you to death with potential side effects as a disclaimer in any commercial)

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.

Globby

Never Ignorant Gettin' Goals Accomplished

Gimme Da Loot

Likes received: 335

#79 - 2014-10-22 14:51:51 UTC

CCP Goliath wrote:

[quote=Adrie Atticus]

I think "Normal" might be the wrong word, but maybe "natural" might suit better? Doing some research I've dug up a few references to blight. We've got a location in The Wheel of Time series, a location in Worlds of the Imperium, some malfunctioning terraforming microbes, a T.E.S. disease, an alien race in DC comics, a Transformer, a baddy in seminal cartoon classic "Captain Planet" and of course the aforementioned WC3. This is around a 50/50 split to 75/25 split of fantasy/scifi, depending on your definitions of them both I guess. This leads me to draw the conclusion that it's a word that people think is cool, maybe even quite badass, despite its most common usage to be to describe bad potatoes Big smile

EDIT: Missed out on like, half of the Nurgle forces of WH40k, but you get the idea Smile

Keep the name, its brilliant. It will take the focus away from the terrible game design and put it on the name.

Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 58
Slap Chop Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic Likes received: 58	#80 - 2014-10-22 14:53:29 UTC Small Sized Badass Small Pulse Laser Badass Light Neutron Blaster Badass 200mm AutoCannon Badass Rocket Launcher Medium Sized Badass Heavy Pulse Laser Badass Heavy Neutron Blaster Badass 425mm AutoCannon Badass Heavy Assault Missile Launcher Large Sized Badass Mega Pulse Laser Badass Neutron Blaster Cannon Badass 800mm Repeating Cannon Badass Torpedo Launcher

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Doomheim

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Hedion University

Amarr Empire

Recon and Reclamation

Abrupt Decay

Deteriorated

C C P

C C P Alliance

Aliastra

Gallente Federation

Infinite Point

Pandemic Horde

Savage Blizzard

The Scope

Gallente Federation

Republic Military School

Minmatar Republic

Panda McLegion

Never Ignorant Gettin' Goals Accomplished

Gimme Da Loot

Native Freshfood

Minmatar Republic