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Two Jump Clone Questions
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Syssitia Nikostratos
Apobangpo Worldwide
#1 - 2014-10-10 05:25:04 UTC
Number One - it is my understand that faction standings mean nothing in terms of allowing you to install jump clones - it's the standing with the individual NPC corp that owns the station/s that matters, yes?

Number Two - How does skilling work with jump clones? Does your clone get all the skill points you skill AFTER creating them or are they frozen with the skills you had when you MADE them?

Thanks in advance for the clarification! :)

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#2 - 2014-10-10 05:49:04 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Syssitia Nikostratos wrote:
Number One - it is my understand that faction standings mean nothing in terms of allowing you to install jump clones - it's the standing with the individual NPC corp that owns the station/s that matters, yes?

Correct.

If I recall, you need 8.0 standings with the NPC corporation.

You can get around this by...

- making one in a player made station that your corporation is a part of or allied with (0.0 space only).
- have a friend with a Rorqual/Titan (fitted with a clone vat bay) undock and allow you to make one with him/her.
- joining a corporation that has very high NPC standings and make one through them (some corps sell this service).

Syssitia Nikostratos wrote:
Number Two - How does skilling work with jump clones? Does your clone get all the skill points you skill AFTER creating them or are they frozen with the skills you had when you MADE them?

A jump clone is merely an "extra body" that you can jump into every 24 hours or so. It is good for using different sets of expensive implants and/or traveling around the map (where you hopefully have a cache of ships and stuff to draw from).

Outside of this, all other mechanics stay the same and you retain all your skills.

Upgrading your medical clone automatically affects all your jump clones as well.

NOTE: in order to jump clone you do have to pause your training que. After you have jumped, you can reactivate it.

How did you Veterans start?
Jur Tissant
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-10-10 06:06:29 UTC
Jump clones require 8.0 corp standing in the dock where they are being made, but you can leave your jump clones at any station regardless of standings. It's trivial to join a jump clone corp, make as many clones as you can with their high standings, then drop corp.

Jump clone mechanics are very simple. When you jump clones, you a) change implants and b) are instantly transported to the location of the clone. Skills are unaffected, as is your "respawn" station. Implants placed in one clone will not be available in another.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-10-10 06:35:34 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Just leaving this here.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=299279&find=unread



TL:DR


Med clone = SP related
JC = not SP related.

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Syssitia Nikostratos
Apobangpo Worldwide
#5 - 2014-10-10 11:02:15 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Just leaving this here.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=299279&find=unread



TL:DR


Med clone = SP related
JC = not SP related.


Thanks for the link, useful stuff, but that says that Faction standings *do* matter when installing jump clones (or rather that you can use either faction standings OR NPC corp standings to install a JC). Everything else I've read says faction standings have zero bearing on whether or not you're allowed to put a JC in a station.

Now I'm confused again.

This is the part that's confusing me: "A: There are multiple ways to set up a jump clone:
1. Gain enough standings (8.0 or above) with a NPC Corp or Faction that is the owner a NPC station with a medical facility." That seems to imply that you can choose to use either faction or npc corp standings.

Manners maketh man.
voetius
Grundrisse
#6 - 2014-10-10 11:13:33 UTC
Syssitia Nikostratos wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
Just leaving this here.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=299279&find=unread



TL:DR


Med clone = SP related
JC = not SP related.


Thanks for the link, useful stuff, but that says that Faction standings *do* matter when installing jump clones (or rather that you can use either faction standings OR NPC corp standings to install a JC). Everything else I've read says faction standings have zero bearing on whether or not you're allowed to put a JC in a station.

Now I'm confused again.

This is the part that's confusing me: "A: There are multiple ways to set up a jump clone:
1. Gain enough standings (8.0 or above) with a NPC Corp or Faction that is the owner a NPC station with a medical facility." That seems to imply that you can choose to use either faction or npc corp standings.


I just looked at the article on the Evelopedia and it doesn't specifically say Faction Standings but rather, standings to the owner of the station which could be interpreted either way. Perhaps an ISD could check, I they do monitor this channel.

Practically it may not make any difference as there aren't that many people (as a percentage of the player base) that have 8.0 or more faction as it takes alot of grinding. I do have 9. something to SoE faction but the problem there is that anyone who has that high faction will probably have a very high standing to the station owner, so in my case I wouldn't be able to get a definitive answer as I have better than 8 to Sisters corp as well.
Ka'Narlist
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#7 - 2014-10-10 12:35:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Ka'Narlist
If the corp has a standing towards you of +5 and the faction of +10 every NPC of that faction will have you as +10.
if an agent has you on -5 he will still regard you as +10.


If the faction sees you only as +2 and the corp sees you as +5. You will have +5 with that corp and all agents of that corp. If an agent has you on +8 you will be +8 to him instead. Other corps of that faction will see you as +2 if they don't have a higher individual standing.
Oraac Ensor
#8 - 2014-10-10 12:52:15 UTC
Or do it the easy way with EACS.
Syssitia Nikostratos
Apobangpo Worldwide
#9 - 2014-10-10 19:44:29 UTC
Oraac Ensor wrote:
Or do it the easy way with EACS.


Ha, yeah, pretty sure this is what I'll be doing. Thanks everybody for the advice and info, I appreciate it!

Manners maketh man.
Mr Mac
Dark Goliath
#10 - 2014-10-13 11:46:18 UTC
Standing 8.0 needed for install NEW jump clone.
You can leave/jump in any station regardless of standing.
But don't leave when you have another clone in same station. Leaving will destroy old clone.