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How Many Skillpoints For Solo PvP?
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San Ghasha
#1 - 2014-10-09 21:19:51 UTC
Hello. I hope this has not been asked before. If it has, I apologize and please feel free to just give me a link. My question is simple. How many skill points should I have before attempting solo PvP? At the moment I am just running missions and working towards frigate skill certificates.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2014-10-09 21:23:09 UTC
you have enough now.
go forth!

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Samwise Everquest
Plus 10 NV
#3 - 2014-10-09 21:33:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Samwise Everquest
It only takes a few hours of training to be able to solo PvP. Not saying you'll win much but anyone can solo pvp. I assume you mean not get your ass kicked. In that case SP is certainly important when it comes to your fitting but knowing the capabilities of your ship and its counters are more important. If I had to answer this question with a SP requirement, as in you put a gun to my head, I guess I would say when you have your racial frig to 4 or 5 and the ability to use t2 fit it so 1-2 mil SP assuming you want to solo pvp in frigates.

Still that is not a good answer and in all honesty it's hard to find a good 1v1 outside of station dueling. If you are willing to take on more than 1 ship a time, its pretty easy to find a fight though :) I'd fly cheap frigs around lowsec so you can get a better idea of how things work.

Pras Phil.
San Ghasha
#4 - 2014-10-09 21:41:40 UTC
Solo PvP is not real thing? That is disappointing.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#5 - 2014-10-09 21:45:24 UTC
San Ghasha wrote:
Solo PvP is not real thing? That is disappointing.

dont listen to him, read this https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5102385#post5102385
then look at the link in my sig.
its there, just a little nuance involved in finding itBlink

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Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#6 - 2014-10-09 22:08:59 UTC
Solo PVP requires one to be mature enough where you can make a reasoned choice to actually do it, and then not have such low self esteem where you can't take being killed and have enough spine to not want to be cubicle cattle, an F1 monkey. Since most people lack maturity, good self esteem and a spine they will tell you that solo PVP doesn't exist because if they told you that it does they'd have to explain and admit to why they're not doing it.

The majority of pvpers don't solo, the majority of "pvpers" adhere to the "more is better" idea, because they're not really good enough to do otherwise. A large group of pvpers who don't blob do so in smaller groups with 2-10 people or so.


You WILL die a lot but you'll also learn a lot and every victory you get was your own doing. If you want to do it then go for it.
San Ghasha
#7 - 2014-10-09 22:12:41 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
San Ghasha wrote:
Solo PvP is not real thing? That is disappointing.

dont listen to him, read this https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5102385#post5102385
then look at the link in my sig.
its there, just a little nuance involved in finding itBlink


Thank you, I am looking at the information you have linked. I appreciate it.

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Paranoid Loyd
#8 - 2014-10-09 22:16:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Gregor Parud wrote:
Solo PVP requires one to be mature enough where you can make a reasoned choice to actually do it, and then not have such low self esteem where you can't take being killed and have enough spine to not want to be cubicle cattle, an F1 monkey. Since most people lack maturity, good self esteem and a spine they will tell you that solo PVP doesn't exist because if they told you that it does they'd have to explain and admit to why they're not doing it.

The majority of pvpers don't solo, the majority of "pvpers" adhere to the "more is better" idea, because they're not really good enough to do otherwise. A large group of pvpers who don't blob do so in smaller groups with 2-10 people or so.


You WILL die a lot but you'll also learn a lot and every victory you get was your own doing. If you want to do it then go for it.


Not only maturity but also patience.

Most say there is no solo PVP as they want/are used to instant gratification and foolishly engage targets that end up getting them blobbed. The pace of the game requires a lot of patience and losing patience will get you killed.

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Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#9 - 2014-10-09 22:16:42 UTC
Good point, forgot about that one.
Trey Kutoi
SergalJerk
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#10 - 2014-10-10 05:19:16 UTC
the hardest part of solo pvp is determining what kind of fight you can win. As your SP increases, your 'reasonable engagement envelope' increases.

Also, another thing is finding an actual solo fight, rather than a hotdrop o'clock.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-10-10 06:37:31 UTC
Can you:

Fly a frigate
Fit guns
Fit warp scram/warp disruptor
(optional) Fit a tank.


You are ready, you will lose a lot though and have to pick your targets.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-10-10 06:38:48 UTC
San Ghasha wrote:
Solo PvP is not real thing? That is disappointing.



Who ever says that is hotdropped once or is clueless and can only fight while being part of a blob.


Sure it is alive, just keep in mind:

Solo PvP = You are alone, your target might not be.

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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#13 - 2014-10-10 06:49:24 UTC
OP, it's not SP that matters, it's your enthusiasm and fun you get out of your play time. When I had few mil SP during my first months I was flying rifters and losing them all day long. Now I have 65mil and I barely log in for anything other then throwing another long skill in queue.

At some point Eve gameplay lost it's charm for me, then RL slightly got in a way, then I got lost in my Eve ways and now I don't give a frakk whether I log in or not. I love the game but not enough to play it. Yeah I know...

You see it's not SP, it's me. And in your case - it's you.

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Karynn Denton
Astrometrica
#14 - 2014-10-10 07:26:41 UTC
Knowing the strengths and weaknesses of your ship and your opponent's ship are much more important than SP, and you can only truly learn those from practice!

Frigate fights are fast and furious and there's a lot of information to take in, process and act on. But with practice, it becomes second nature - you will panic less, be more controlled, react to evolving situations quicker and more confidently... SP will not help you do this at all.

So, the sooner you start this practice, the better! Blink

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Samwise Everquest
Plus 10 NV
#15 - 2014-10-10 13:38:52 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
San Ghasha wrote:
Solo PvP is not real thing? That is disappointing.



Who ever says that is hotdropped once or is clueless and can only fight while being part of a blob.


Sure it is alive, just keep in mind:

Solo PvP = You are alone, your target might not be.


pretty much the point i was trying to make. dont expect a formal duel between two gentleman if you stumble upon a lone ship. in EVE there is no honor in losing therefore most pilots do what is necessary to win. not saying all but dont expect a "fair" fight from anyone.

Pras Phil.
Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-10-10 14:33:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Cara Forelli
I solo all the time. Sometimes I...

-Roam FW space in a frig solo
-Bait mission runners solo
-Stalk WH space with a cloaky solo
-Fly larger ships and take on groups solo

And I've had success at all of them. The first two are probably the easiest at with low SP, but as others have said it is all about picking your fights.

That said, I would recommend finding a good corp and getting your feet wet with some good old-fashioned group PvP. This will introduce you to ships, tactics, piloting, making decisions, scouting...etc. All invaluable traits for your eventual solo career.

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Crimson Draufgange
The Seven Shadows
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#17 - 2014-10-10 16:54:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Crimson Draufgange
San Ghasha wrote:
Hello. I hope this has not been asked before. If it has, I apologize and please feel free to just give me a link. My question is simple. How many skill points should I have before attempting solo PvP? At the moment I am just running missions and working towards frigate skill certificates.


There are various types of solo PvP (ganking, roaming, camping) and there are various places to do it (high sec, low sec, etc.)

How to get started:

- Ask yourself where you want to solo PvP.
- Ask yourself what your play style is.
--- Do you like close range, in-your-face brawling fights or fast and kitey skirmishes?
--- Do you want to camp gates/WH entrances, roam, or gank?

You may not figure out what your play style is until you try all the options. Do keep in mind, solo pvp'ing takes more than just in-game skillpoints. Solo'ing requires knowledge of game mechanics and content. There are also some tactics that can be used. These tactics include looking up a pilot on ZKillboard that is in the same system as you. By looking him up on the killboards, you can find out what ships he likes to fly/lose, where he likes to fly, and what his play style is.

The best way to get started in solo PvP is to simply start. Learn from your mistakes and the mistakes of others.

As for minimum required skillpoints, there is none.

My Velator is overpowered.

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San Ghasha
#18 - 2014-10-11 02:05:22 UTC
Thank you for the responses, everyone. I shall hop in some Punishers and just go roaming around in between missions from time to time.

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Nerath Naaris
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#19 - 2014-10-11 19:27:28 UTC
San Ghasha wrote:
Thank you for the responses, everyone. I shall hop in some Punishers and just go roaming around in between missions from time to time.


That´s the spirit!
Don´t forget to throw a good fight in local and ask your opponent to give you tips. Most should be willing to share some of their experience with new, eager PvPers....

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Steppa Musana
Doomheim
#20 - 2014-10-13 03:02:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Steppa Musana
Gregor Parud wrote:
Solo PVP requires one to be mature enough where you can make a reasoned choice to actually do it, and then not have such low self esteem where you can't take being killed and have enough spine to not want to be cubicle cattle, an F1 monkey. Since most people lack maturity, good self esteem and a spine they will tell you that solo PVP doesn't exist because if they told you that it does they'd have to explain and admit to why they're not doing it.

The majority of pvpers don't solo, the majority of "pvpers" adhere to the "more is better" idea, because they're not really good enough to do otherwise. A large group of pvpers who don't blob do so in smaller groups with 2-10 people or so.


You WILL die a lot but you'll also learn a lot and every victory you get was your own doing. If you want to do it then go for it.

Translation of your post: "Solo PVP requires one to think they are better than others for how they choose to play a sandbox game, and lack maturity to the point where they can recognize that different players value different experiences out of the game. Solo PVPers suffer from feelings of inadequacy and try to makeup for it by placing themselves above others in an internet spaceship video game."

I don't actually think this of most solo PVPers, but that is indeed what you just said.
And you've posted it with your NPC forum alt, because you're too much of a pansy to say these things with your main. Food for thought. Lol

Hey guys.
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