Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Something to keep in mind is that the more mobile force would have much greater control over where the fight would likely happen. But if they did get caught by the tankier force, yeah, it probably wouldn't be pretty.

Are you just like the patron deity of ship fitting for things that always work or something?
And why do you slap your name on all the doctrines?

There's a pretty impressive amount of hyperbole in this thread. You're acting as though this gimmick fit will be some all-powerful tactic no one can compete with, when in reality it has several major drawbacks and some pretty straightforward counters.

Firstly, capital rigs and pirate implants aren't like flux coils you can swap out every 5 minutes. They're a pretty significant investment and expensive to change out. This means many fits (especially for armour-based supers, which are by far the most prevalent) will be severely lacking in terms of EHP and/or damage. An Erebus or Avatar with just one of these rigs and no slave set has about half the EHP it would normally have.
Of course that's before you start factoring in a travel fit for aligning at a reasonable speed, which is pretty risky when more than a handful of titans will be bumping each other off gates every jump and likely ending up out of refit range.

Roaming carriers and dreads are slightly more viable, but you'll need an awful lot of them. That's going to be tricky thanks to the low supply of ascendancy sets and the fact they cost more than the ship they're being used on. There's also something kinda amusing about capships carefully fitted for align time and warp speed sitting in siege/triage with a severely reduced tank.

Both kinds of fleets will be noticed by even the most inattentive ratter (supercaps are still on everyone's locator alt watchlists), and can be stopped dead by a pair of dictors (which will still warp+align faster than they do).

In null-sec this is going to a gimmick, and little else. The only place this might be any kind of problem is low-sec, and that's assuming CCP do nothing to address the hilarious imbalances of supercaps using gates there.

What is refitting off a carrier and how does it work?

oh, yeah. totally gonna destroy carrier meta. .9 from the modules, which is then multiplied by the single rig likely on skirmish capitals.

Just thought I'd add this since it seems relevant:

From the Phoebe change thread OP:


And from later in the thread, past #153.