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Dev blog: Sensor Overlay 2.0: Bigger, Better, Bookmarks in Spacier!

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Adrian Dixon
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction
-affliction-
#61 - 2014-10-08 18:07:12 UTC
I really like these upgrades thanks!
Ix Method
Doomheim
#62 - 2014-10-08 18:10:56 UTC
An add location shortcut? *cries tears of sweet relief*

Travelling at the speed of love.
Kristian Hackett
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#63 - 2014-10-08 18:12:12 UTC
I read the devblog and one thing came to mind - WOOHOO!

I'm really looking forward to this change.

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Arsine Mayhem
Doomheim
#64 - 2014-10-08 18:14:01 UTC
Keyboard shortcuts are definitely welcome. Anything to minimize mouse usage will help me a lot.

Shortcut to trigger a D-Scan would be very helpful, while your in there.

Nice additions, nice colors, orientation marker pointing to the top of the map is nice, I'm always disoriented.
Beta Maoye
#65 - 2014-10-08 18:15:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Beta Maoye
Bookmarks in space are really cool. Is it possible to make bookmarks visible in Overview? Because I don't need to drag the camera around to click the bookmark to align or jump.
King Fu Hostile
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#66 - 2014-10-08 18:18:07 UTC
I only got this far:

Quote:
One of the biggest changes is the ability to see personal and corporation locations visualized in space in the sensor overlay.


yes

YES!

<3
Croc Evil
Croc's Family Business
#67 - 2014-10-08 18:23:27 UTC
Very nice UI improvements. I wish it can be so straightforward with gameplay changes. I will keep dreaming.
King Fu Hostile
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#68 - 2014-10-08 18:24:06 UTC
Ok now I read the rest and I'm still YES!, but could you add Edit option to r-click menu in space for bookmarks?
VeronicaKell
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#69 - 2014-10-08 18:33:27 UTC
This stuff is great!

Next Step:

Do you think you would be able to allow bookmarks to be put into the overview?

Make for a lot less right clicking in WH space.
Resgo
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#70 - 2014-10-08 18:41:20 UTC
Any way we could customize this to work with overview targets as well? Being able to see relative directions for each of the different colored over view types would be great.
Y'talana Ktra'a
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
#71 - 2014-10-08 18:45:22 UTC
This is awesome! I've been waiting for this for two years now.

After this change I can finally use my bazillion bookmarks without having to remember where exactly they *should* be and then accidentally land a bit off.

Also, one of the few devblogs that made me bounce from start to end. Nothing I don't like in there!
CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
#72 - 2014-10-08 18:45:59 UTC
King Fu Hostile wrote:
Ok now I read the rest and I'm still YES!, but could you add Edit option to r-click menu in space for bookmarks?


Quote:
Oh and we added the option to edit locations from the right click and radial menus, so you don't have to open up the P&P window to do that. :)

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Masao Kurata
Perkone
Caldari State
#73 - 2014-10-08 18:46:52 UTC
I'm generally liking this, but it of course needs more work.


  • Most critically: there is no longer a shortcut to open the directional scanner. Being able to have the d-scanner and probe scanner open at the same time is something I think everyone wanted but if it's released like this many people won't even know how to get the d-scanner back.
  • Arguably even worse: the directional scanner doesn't remember whether it was open and has to be reopened every time you undock. {EBR-25025}
  • The scanning delay when entering a system is now really obnoxious. It even applies to your own bookmarks, they won't have brackets in space until the scan reaches them and the brackets aren't usable until the scan has finished which takes... 20 seconds!? Nobody liked this aspect of the overlay in the first place and it's a very strong reason to turn off the overlay.
  • Although overlay brackets gained a context menu, you appear to have done this by removing it from the results in the probe window. Oops? {EBR-25028}
  • Bracket lists aren't displayed at all if there's an overlay bracket and you're not using "compact" bracket lists in space {EBR-25023}
  • We need scrolling bracket lists back! I didn't agree with removing them in the first place but they're even more important now that our bookmarks are in the bracket lists.
  • Renaming a bookmark doesn't update the overlay. {EBR-25022}
  • Hovering over the compass for a key to the new brackets is... not the most useful hover behaviour. If I could hover over it for a list of overlay brackets displayed on that part of the compass that would be useful.
  • If we're going to have camera snapping from the brackets, could we have it from the probe scanner please?
  • How about brackets for combat probe results?
  • Inclination indicators on the compass would be nice, it doesn't have to be completely one dimensional.
Alty McAltypants
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2014-10-08 18:54:08 UTC
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CCP Lebowski
C C P
C C P Alliance
#75 - 2014-10-08 19:05:17 UTC
Masao Kurata wrote:
I'm generally liking this, but it of course needs more work.


  • Most critically: there is no longer a shortcut to open the directional scanner. Being able to have the d-scanner and probe scanner open at the same time is something I think everyone wanted but if it's released like this many people won't even know how to get the d-scanner back.
  • Arguably even worse: the directional scanner doesn't remember whether it was open and has to be reopened every time you undock. {EBR-25025}
  • The scanning delay when entering a system is now really obnoxious. It even applies to your own bookmarks, they won't have brackets in space until the scan reaches them and the brackets aren't usable until the scan has finished which takes... 20 seconds!? Nobody liked this aspect of the overlay in the first place and it's a very strong reason to turn off the overlay.
  • Although overlay brackets gained a context menu, you appear to have done this by removing it from the results in the probe window. Oops? {EBR-25028}
  • Bracket lists aren't displayed at all if there's an overlay bracket and you're not using "compact" bracket lists in space {EBR-25023}
  • We need scrolling bracket lists back! I didn't agree with removing them in the first place but they're even more important now that our bookmarks are in the bracket lists.
  • Renaming a bookmark doesn't update the overlay. {EBR-25022}
  • Hovering over the compass for a key to the new brackets is... not the most useful hover behaviour. If I could hover over it for a list of overlay brackets displayed on that part of the compass that would be useful.
  • If we're going to have camera snapping from the brackets, could we have it from the probe scanner please?
  • How about brackets for combat probe results?
  • Inclination indicators on the compass would be nice, it doesn't have to be completely one dimensional.
  • The unstacking of the scanner windows isn't actually part of the new Sensor Overlay (It's a change done by Pirate Unicorns), but I cant see them disagreeing with this.
  • Again, an issue for Pirate Unicorns, but that sounds like a defect to me!
  • The scanning delay is certainly not final, at the very minimum we're looking to remove locations and missions objectives from it, likely so that they show immediately.
  • Interesting, this isn't intended. Ill look into this tomorrow.
  • Yep, we're aware of this, but thanks for the report (Again, not intended).
  • Worry not! Scrolling brackets is actually scheduled to be reimplemented for this feature!
  • Thats a bug, we're aware of it.
  • Thanks for the feedback, Ill pass it on.
  • Interesting suggestion, Ill see if its feasible.
  • Again, a nice idea!
  • Moar suggestions for our designers!




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King Fu Hostile
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#76 - 2014-10-08 19:17:04 UTC
CCP Logibro wrote:
King Fu Hostile wrote:
Ok now I read the rest and I'm still YES!, but could you add Edit option to r-click menu in space for bookmarks?


Quote:
Oh and we added the option to edit locations from the right click and radial menus, so you don't have to open up the P&P window to do that. :)


= you rock and I can't into readings

thanks!
Valerius Dominicus
MyBits S.p.A.
#77 - 2014-10-08 19:19:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Valerius Dominicus
add an "color blind" mode/option please!
Max Kolonko
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#78 - 2014-10-08 19:31:20 UTC
Pls change the brackets color/shape/whatever to differentiate Bookmarks that are ON GRID and OFF GRID

Read and support: Don't mess with OUR WH's What is Your stance on WH stuff?
Fifth Blade
Jump Drive Appreciation Society
#79 - 2014-10-08 19:37:16 UTC
Is there an option to "Always Enable" the overlay? I couldn't find any mention of it in the blog.
This is something that has bugged me with the old one for an extremely long time. When you have a ton of characters and have to keep enabling it every time you relog on every single character...

Loving the proposed changes. Keep it up!
Antihrist Pripravnik
Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity
Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#80 - 2014-10-08 19:40:47 UTC
Love this Big smile THANK YOU!Smile