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Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#21 - 2014-10-08 12:56:39 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:

...We've got some interesting stuff coming up toward Christmas, ...


I hope it's what i'm thinking

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
Sephira Galamore
Inner Beard Society
Kvitravn.
#22 - 2014-10-08 13:19:22 UTC
I don't have much, but I'll put a contract up before monday.
CCP Falcon
#23 - 2014-10-08 13:21:51 UTC
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:

...We've got some interesting stuff coming up toward Christmas, ...


I hope it's what i'm thinking


Well, what do you think it is?

Lets get some rampant speculation going! The forums are never fun without it!

Big smile

CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon

Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3
Solecist Project
#24 - 2014-10-08 13:27:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
I have a question, if I may ...

Will we get to see stats about which faction has the lead, a day before end?
Or would you think this will skew the outcome?

Thanks!

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Seismic Stan
Freebooted Junkworks
#25 - 2014-10-08 13:37:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Seismic Stan
CCP Falcon wrote:
With regards to A'J, we're aware that you guys are super passionate about it, and we're well aware of how much player driven work went into it so far. In the same respect though, we're not in a position where we're just going to resurrect an arc for the sake of it. There needs to be meaning for us to do so, and it needs to fit with what's currently happening in the Universe.

There's a few loose ends that we'll eventually look at tying off, so stay tuned.

Smile

Although it's a shame to read this given the sheer volume of material A'J inspired the playerbase to generate, I entirely understand that the density and relevance of the projects makes it an insurmountable task for the brave few CCPers flying the live event flag.

However, as a model for generating ongoing, slow-burning player interaction, A'J has been an order of magnititude more successful than any other CCP-driven event. It proved that not everything has to focus around spaceship PvP in order to engage.

Is there any possibility that the example set by A'J could be applied to a new narrative?

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Darvids0n
Mammoth Beetle
#26 - 2014-10-08 13:42:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Darvids0n
Anyone and everyone interested in player-driven narratives needs to get on this. NAO.

You have my support good sir.

EDIT: Also, can a dev sticky this until the 14th if it's something CCP is watching with interest? Thanks.
Guillome Renard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2014-10-08 14:15:48 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
I have a question, if I may ...

Will we get to see stats about which faction has the lead, a day before end?
Or would you think this will skew the outcome?

Thanks!


CCP Fozzie has said that he will be releasing numbers as the drive goes on. I will do the same. Whenever he releases numbers, I will release numbers as well.

http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=662501
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#28 - 2014-10-08 14:30:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Akrasjel Lanate
CCP Falcon wrote:
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:

...We've got some interesting stuff coming up toward Christmas, ...


I hope it's what i'm thinking


Well, what do you think it is?

Lets get some rampant speculation going! The forums are never fun without it!

Big smile

You know the Fed elections maby.

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
Solecist Project
#29 - 2014-10-08 15:01:12 UTC
Guillome Renard wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
I have a question, if I may ...

Will we get to see stats about which faction has the lead, a day before end?
Or would you think this will skew the outcome?

Thanks!


CCP Fozzie has said that he will be releasing numbers as the drive goes on. I will do the same. Whenever he releases numbers, I will release numbers as well.

Thank you!
That tidbit must have slipped my memory. :)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Daemonspirit
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2014-10-08 15:07:50 UTC
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:

...We've got some interesting stuff coming up toward Christmas, ...


I hope it's what i'm thinking

It is.

Funny as **** too.
Wolfgang Kyosuke
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2014-10-08 15:26:25 UTC
You can have my space axe! (if I remember to log in after work today)
CCP Falcon
#32 - 2014-10-08 15:45:03 UTC
Guillome Renard wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
I have a question, if I may ...

Will we get to see stats about which faction has the lead, a day before end?
Or would you think this will skew the outcome?

Thanks!


CCP Fozzie has said that he will be releasing numbers as the drive goes on. I will do the same. Whenever he releases numbers, I will release numbers as well.


I'll be releasing the first wave of numbers tomorrow Smile

CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon

Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3
Makari Aeron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2014-10-08 15:50:20 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:

...We've got some interesting stuff coming up toward Christmas, ...


I hope it's what i'm thinking


Well, what do you think it is?

Lets get some rampant speculation going! The forums are never fun without it!

Big smile

I'm hoping it's a surprise ship. I didn't particularly enjoy the "choose your gift!" option from a few years ago. I guess I just like surprise gifts. As for last year, the Yule Lads were pretty cool even if the gifts were silly things like launchers and fedos and carbon. I did like those prototype ships quite a bit....they're cool at least. So here's to hoping. :)

CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty.

CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Turelus
Utassi Security
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#34 - 2014-10-08 15:51:02 UTC
It's at times like this I wish I didn't waste all my ISK on clothes... Sorry State, I'm poor now. Cry

Turelus CEO Utassi Security
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#35 - 2014-10-08 16:23:01 UTC
Seismic Stan wrote:

However, as a model for generating ongoing, slow-burning player interaction, A'J has been an order of magnititude more successful than any other CCP-driven event. It proved that not everything has to focus around spaceship PvP in order to engage.


Jumping in for a bit of devil's advocacy. What do you (and I don't just mean Stan here) think makes an event successful?

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
Fonac
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2014-10-08 16:29:49 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Seismic Stan wrote:

However, as a model for generating ongoing, slow-burning player interaction, A'J has been an order of magnititude more successful than any other CCP-driven event. It proved that not everything has to focus around spaceship PvP in order to engage.


Jumping in for a bit of devil's advocacy. What do you (and I don't just mean Stan here) think makes an event successful?



The fact that Everyone Talks about it.

That it gives a nice reward. - i'm not sure what the reward / new tech will be, but i dont hope it's some kind of vanity thing that for me is useless. (which is why i dont dare enter this) ...



I must admit i think the fact that we have to donate isk to an event, is shallow.. Now if forexample it was an event where he had to find secret sites, or some kind of secret ore(for those that mine) ... well that would be something.
Steven Hackett
Overload This
#37 - 2014-10-08 16:38:02 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Seismic Stan wrote:

However, as a model for generating ongoing, slow-burning player interaction, A'J has been an order of magnititude more successful than any other CCP-driven event. It proved that not everything has to focus around spaceship PvP in order to engage.


Jumping in for a bit of devil's advocacy. What do you (and I don't just mean Stan here) think makes an event successful?

That it shapes or have an impact on the history of EVE
That is appeals to a large number of players
That it's possible to be a part of it without having to be on at a specific time, follow badly communicated directions in a TiDI hell.
That there are no prize awarded winners. (If you have to lure the pilots out with great rewards (Devfleet, Im looking at you), you have already failed making a good event.)

And finaly, that the event is flexible and able to swallow what the capsuleers throw at it. I don't care much for roleplay myself, but I can imagine that the roleplayers feels bad about being forced to work for a faction that obviously manipulates and abuses the capsuleers without the option to rebel against the system.
The participants should be able to take whatever option they choose and the event should be able to react on that choice and shape the universe after it. That is in the end. at least for me, the entire idea of a live event. To give the players the option to shape the lore/history/universe with their actions. (and no pre-decided Luminaire stuff, then you might as well not make the live event and make it a scenery instead.)
Turelus
Utassi Security
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#38 - 2014-10-08 16:38:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Turelus
CCP Goliath wrote:
Seismic Stan wrote:

However, as a model for generating ongoing, slow-burning player interaction, A'J has been an order of magnititude more successful than any other CCP-driven event. It proved that not everything has to focus around spaceship PvP in order to engage.


Jumping in for a bit of devil's advocacy. What do you (and I don't just mean Stan here) think makes an event successful?


For me it's anything where I feel we as the players can actually change the outcome, unlike events like Caldari Prime where one side was written in to win and we just showed up to watch.
I wasn't around in what many consider the glory days of CCP Live Events (Aurora?) but much of what I heard was they were often smaller scale random events which had an ideal outcome but if things went off the rails CCP just rolled with it.

I really loved the Gurista's event a couple of years ago where we had random intel here and there and had to piece it all together ourselves, The live Events channel and other RP channels worked together or against each other to solve the mysteries involved. Laterly CCP events have been more about getting thousands of players in one place shooting something, with everything being clearly announced and laid out days in advance.
The problem with the later is that all we ever see is power-blocs with no interest in RP or lore turning up just to troll everyone, you can say this is what the sandbox is about and it's all player interaction sure, but I think working towards the audience who care for and want to drive the lore forwards is better than those who just want to mess with people or ruin the events.

Svetlana Scarlet made a lot of really good points in her TMC article last year.

Edit:
Also anything where I can see my personal, corporation or alliance name in a news article afterwards as a party helping the State is a nice nod of the head towards my part in events.

Turelus CEO Utassi Security
Guillome Renard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2014-10-08 16:39:39 UTC
Fonac wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:


Jumping in for a bit of devil's advocacy. What do you (and I don't just mean Stan here) think makes an event successful?



The fact that Everyone Talks about it.

That it gives a nice reward. - i'm not sure what the reward / new tech will be, but i dont hope it's some kind of vanity thing that for me is useless. (which is why i dont dare enter this) ...



I must admit i think the fact that we have to donate isk to an event, is shallow.. Now if forexample it was an event where he had to find secret sites, or some kind of secret ore(for those that mine) ... well that would be something.


I add to this: That it creates stories that players tell about 'that one time we...'

Remember that time that we started doing player-driven research and actually got to be at the helm of the lore machine?
Remember that time we learned how to navigate wormholes and build empires that have no fixed geography?

A good Live Event leaves players with a sense of accomplishment and community. It leaves players feeling like they DID something. The Jita riots? That was a good live event, cynicism aside. The shattered monument is something people can point to.

http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=662501
Corben Arctus
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
#40 - 2014-10-08 19:26:08 UTC
Rise up, fellow capsuleers. Don't buy into the empires' bullshit.

I'm risking MY butt to get those sleeper parts; I am fighting those remorseless machines to profit from their remains.

If the empires want that stuff, why don't they come in here and get it themselves?

And if they do... they should tell me their J-sig. I might come and... help them.

[/rp] don't be fools, give the stuff to my buddy Guillome. You won't regret it.