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thanks Rowells, you seem to understand the irony in this nerf

it doesn't address the clone suicides

it doesn't address the clone jumps

it does keep a corp from or an individual from efficiently relocating from one location to another in a reasonable about of time

for example;

corp A is in Cloudring

corp A decides to relocate to Wicked Creek

instead of being able to move assets in a week or two - it'll take a month or more to relocate

that's the part i'm talking about - that's the part i'm concerned about

how does a pilot or corp relocate - not because they are projecting force in a hostile manner tonight - but because they want to live in WC instead of CR...but now they have to reconsider that decision because moving to that location is no longer efficient and will hinder play time - so now - if you are CR you'll need to relocate relatively close - in stages ? - a staged retreat i can understand - but a month or more to relocate just so u can live somewhere else ?

this is supposed to be fun - this is a game we play for enjoyment - this seems to address the issue with NULL sec blobs - but it doesn't really - it doesn't prevent "force projection" - it doesn't break up the super alliances - it doesn't break up control over NULL sec....

you need to look a bit deeper than just the skin.

What exactly do you expect to see happen?

PL and friends spend a month moving to a staging system next to Goons and friends and just slug it out?
Or more likely, PL will stick to what they have, Goons will stick to what they have, Smaller groups in nul will be crippled logistically and either simply move out or stay close to home.

The only shake up this will achieve is to further secure the coalition blocks.

So you can move a few capital ships through gates without the real fear of being dropped from the other side of new eden by BL.
Half the challenge and fun of nulsec was living with the knowledge, BL might decide to pay us a visit while we were reinforcing a pos somewhere.
We recently got hotdropped in Syndicate by a bunch of Archons.. We got a few kills then died in a glorious ball of fire but it was the best fight I had been in for a long time. Hint - T1 logi with T2 Warriors is no match for Firblogs. They dropped 10 Archons and a Thany on our sole triage Niddy, it was hilarious and a lot of fun and sadly with the upcoming changes, unlikely to happen again.

If a game of nulsec stalemate is your idea of a good shakeup, this is what you've been waiting for.

we used to escort frieghters down to NULL = it was alot of fun for the PVP pilots ( it was a good time)

it was highly stress full for the freighter pilot and our corp CEO

I have no problem with that aspect

i agree that you need to do so as well.

look at the logi contracts

short hauls = less isk

less jumps = less isk

more Logi Pilots = less isk

Logi though gates = high risk = less isk per jump = High risk / low isk = no logistics

of course i can be wrong but that's what i see

it's like freight hauling big rigs:

more company's bidding on the contract = less cost to the bidder

we used to escort frieghters down to NULL = it was alot of fun for the PVP pilots ( it was a good time)

it was highly stress full for the freighter pilot and our corp CEO

I have no problem with that aspect

as you admit, and as i do - there's more to come - but with out the alternatives in place first - this sledge hammer seems wrong - it's like we're putting the roof on the house before the foundation is poured because we don't want it to get wet expecting the roof to stand on a wet foundation is not a good idea

since swinging the nerf bat is in high swing and causing many tears enjoyable tears at best.

1) Cloaky Camping,
2) Unlimited cloaking
3) AFK cloaking camping


I dare ask ccp greyscale to respond if so will this be handled once and for all??

This "is" the foundation, a necessary first step.

a foundation is something you can stand on without falling.

with the information provided by CCP this completely drops the bottom out with nothing to grasp for it to use as a life line.

that's how i see it.

something needs to be done ? - yes

this ? this seems to be backwards to what i would categorize as a "foundation"

does it actually effect what CCP hopes it will ? with the current information CCP has provided I don't think so

I for one applaud CCP for such aggressive out-of-the-box changes. The movement of massive fleets across the entire galaxy in moments has led to the blue donut we know and hate. This is more a throwback to the old days, when there wasn't an easy button to press that led to your cap fleet immediately smashing ontop of your enemies face. Nullsec Alliances might actually have to *shock* think about how to defend their space.

relocate your home office to any station you have a clone at

suicide

appear instantly in PB

relocate your home office to any station you have a clone at

suicide

appear instantly DEK

used this more than you may want to know to "enforce immediate harm on my enemies" along far reaching stars