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Well I really like the sound of these changes, I unsubbed because I was fed up of the ridiculous force projection issues. This should thin out the herd nicely.

The only incentive is to make it easier to take systems so that the owners will have to undock and fight for them. Under the current mechanics this won't happen. Making 0.0 more valuable will do NOTHING - only make rental prices increase.

The nerf to jump drives in this thread gives bigger advantages to the defender. Looking at the map and you can see that geography will matter more than it does now and if you were playing a game of Risk, then the dudes on both sides of the map are in really good defensive positions. They can push resources to wherever needs defending at the time, and can kick the teeth into anybody who tries to make a presence in their 0.0 area.

CCP is going to have to make it easier for non-sov holders to get footholds into null sec - more gates, fewer choke points, more station systems within jump range. CCP should consider making High, Low, AND NPC 0.0 islands - not just 0.0. Reason? Players are immune to 0.0 blocks when they live in low sec with stations. And that's what you need - players who can really base out of an area without having to worry about being hellcamped.

Solitude or Aridia would have been good trial cases, but they are too far from Sov Null (>5 LY). Maybe push those regions closer to Sov null sec - as well as Syndicate and Khanid. Add more connections between them and sov null sec too. Add a connection from Alparena to Cloud Ring, etc....

*giggles* It's so sweet when they try.


Yes he is.
Signal travel time between server and client has nothing to do with the need for TiDi in large battles.

You know, you could have simply stopped there.

It's funny when you try to discount someone else's comments simply by being condescending. The only thing that is 'sweet', is watching you unable to provide any contrary evidence, Jessica, other than 'You're wrong because I say you're wrong'.

:-)

I thought of something similar when the devblog came out: mid-grade ascendancies, but only one t2 rig. You get 4.1 au/sec, and the fit isn't so gimped as with three rigs. The carriers can even refit off each other in warp, so you don't need to have the lows on all the time.


The changes to gates alone offer plenty of opportunities for novel cap use, I can't wait.

I'm very aware of exotic hardware.

(new hardware emplaced/total code rewrite) And you would find that it all hits the wall at some new N+1 point. 10K pilots? 20K pilots? The nobbing will always overwhelm the hardware/software, unless it can handle more subscribers than you actually have subscribed. The mechanics of the game have to push very hard against, or forbid, nobbing before TiDi can be retired.

This is quick fit - so using cheep implants ( cheaper than those rigs ) - what big hole is in the stuff CCP is planing.
This ships will travel 10 gates faster than battleship fleet.

Of course, there will always be a cap on what an given hardware can support. Tidi is not a solution though, it's a temporary fix. It effectively allows a server to run as fast as 10 in relation to the speed of the actual game. The only realistic solution to the problem is a combined effort of improving the server technology (such as though biab and service separation) and meta game changes which discourage massing. From the way CCP act though, tidi is a burden which is here to stay.

hmmm....interesting times ahead of us it seems. I for one did not like the module tiercide....but i didnt come here to post about that.

I read maybe 400 posts, basically saw 3 camps.....the fors, the againsts, and the neutrals(fence straddlers). A lot of nullsecr's raging in here.
Well lets see.....maybe if you had set up your local areas for marketing and industry you would not be raging so hard. Curently most nullsecrs (not all) look down on anybody that doesnt pvp all the time.....and more so those that dont pvp at all. Yet you rat yourself to make Isk? You dont protect your renters for the most part....instead you slave them out, tax them to death, make them wait on you all the time, or expect them to jump the second you snap your fingers. Ok thats fine and dandy....your pvpr's, you buy all you stuff....you dont build it unless its a cap or supercap. And where to you buy your stuff?

You buy it from highsec, then you send your alts or force miners to go there also.....then you assist crusades or lead them yourselves against highsec miners, ratters, and Indy alike. Why? because you have no content in null.
You need kills, you only pvp here because of the meta of being big dog whether your a failure or not at COD or BF4. Except you forgot that EvE isnt a twitch game....it is not an instant gratification game. It is one of strategy and tactics.

Yet you have nothing in place for hardcore local defense, you dont defend or utilize your space (meaning betls, anoms, etc not TCU's and SBU's) let alone have any real concrete programs in place for having a core indy group....the farmers to feed your military and the permanent defense patrols for them to feel safe. So they either move or are told to go to highsec and collect stuff and ship home to null.

Renters.....they utilize space for you...but do it to make ISK or fuel their own ambitions of game play....but they utilize the space and are forced to wait hand and foot for you to get around doing upgrades and stuff for them. What is the rent for? To pay your Sov BIll? screw that....pay it yourself by utilizing more than you do and if you need more space for that to happen then take it or die trying. In my personal experience on another toon in another day....a renter is left to fend for themselves 90% of the time...and if they toe the political party line 100% then maybe they wont be subject to being picked on by members of their overlords.
Logistics..........you would not be crying so much if your indy and miners were based at home rather than Highsec. Stagnation is really your fault. Blue donut is your fault. and the line members....75% of you are nothing more than two-bit thugs that have forgot why you came to EvE in the first place.....thats why your bored, thats why you rail on changes like this....albiet i agree its maybe a wee bit harsher than it needs to be.
I heard a rumor last year....do not know if its true or not I dont load up dotlan to find out....but i heard that Mittani at one time ordered their homeworld areas to be maxed out for indy.
Players need/want that chance to own a piece of the pie....and they can not do it. If this change downsizes the space owned by the Null Lords....then so be it maybe the smaller guys can start to finally take the fight to own that slice. For those that have unsubbed or threatening to.......good EvE dont need you...your a drain on the community anyway with your acidic toxic way of dealing with others just because you can....just because your top of the foodchain. Honestly....it should be the pvpr' that works for the indy guys not the other way around. And i say that last bit because in any other strategy game, RTS or not....its the resource collector, the buildings, etc that are the most important resource....to fuel the military offensive and defensive capability to win.
So nullbears qq about moving stuff around.....a carrier can do it but thats not its purpose its a combat ship....a carrier with sub-caps maybe should be an escort force for a convoy of JF or regular freighters. quit crying about moving stuff from highsec to null....you have enough out there if you moved your assets out there to be 100% self-sufficient. Highsec on the other hand has to rely on wormhole diving or resources from Nullsec for building stuff on the other hand. Have you thought about that strategy? IF you controlled the t2 market to the extreme as in not bringing moon goo or completed ships to highsec....you would totally dominate in that economically and militarily.....because Highsec players would be forced to trade on your terms or really really have a reason to move to null themselves. Of course that would require you leave Highsec with your mains and alts and never look back......might be too much to ask for or for the ragers (logistic nullbears) to think about.