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No, and no.

There is a much simpler way to solve the JF logistical problem. Right now people pick their staging / market system to be the most strategically central system to project subcaps from because JF logistics is only marginally harder to there than the closest system to highsec.

Now the decision calculus has shifted dramatically. The proposed rules now makes supply lines much longer with the current regional market hubs being central to a region..

An answer would be to try to produce all modules and ships across all your doctrines by yourself just so you don't have to move your home. However, that's a massive investment of time and energy just so you can gate jump a few less times when you need to defend your remote space. Also, you'll almost invariably have huge holes in your inventory for items with too little market volume just justify setting up the production lines. The value of Jita isn't in the pricing, its in the fact that every item is deeply stocked so you can always resupply. That won't be true in locally produced markets just by the reality of a lack of industrial diversity in your local region vs literally thousands of indy corps supplying highsec.

The more sensible answer would be to move your base of operations to the closest system to highsec to shorten your supply line to the same or shorter pre-changes and continue to supply from a highly liquid market center.

The implication here is that alliances will have to consolidate their market systems a great deal as well. Whereas you may have 2-3 market systems in a region now you will likely have 1 and only 1.

You also used to have small pocket enclaves of people living throughout a region for various reasons that would contract courier to their enclave system. That won't happen because it'll be prohibitively expensive to compensate JF pilots for their time to those systems.

Instead you will have alliances congregated in a single constellation and the rest of their space essentially empty of everything. All engagements will happen around that constellation unless someone is trying to move into the remote space.

The invaders in that remote space however will be cut off from highsec supplies owing to the regional power owning the jump systems. The invaders might even try T1 indy importing supplies as the power holder lolzdunks them repeatedly. That'll end with tears.

Then, after a short period of the starry eyed in this thread attempting to wrest control from the major powers with locally produced T1 frigates with sparse T1 fittings they can't resupply and a lot of tears, things will stagnate and calcify in nullsec way beyond where it is now.

You do understand that with the reduced jump ranges there are points where you will be forced to take a gate and that the fact that moving unfit ships will be near suicide might cause this to be a not so bright idea, right and that the chance of low sec camps in those areas is going to move from a chance to permacamped, right?

I'm forced to agree with Gregor. Putting a JF on a gate in Null aint happening. Add in the change they just added that force a JF off a POS bubble and you have aren't really even able to wait out the timer properly.

They are making changes that rely on EVE players being stoopid and those EVE players are now playing other games.

nah, we simply disemboweled your wrecking ball and sent you running back home with your tails between your legs

Can't exempt BLOPS from fatigue, otherwise you'd just have Sins / Redeemers being the Pony Express for stealth bomber fleets of cap pilots to speed across the universe, arriving in the cap staging system with zero fatigue. That's no bueno.

On the other hand...

What if fatigue accumulation and it's impact on jump timers were independent factors?

In other words, you BLOPS to a cyno 7.875 AU away. You gain a jump timer of (1+(distance*distance modifier)) * ( 1+(fatigue * timer modifier)). Your new fatigue is (fatigue * (1 + (distance * fatigue modifier))).

You could then have BLOPS be able to jump rapidly and accumulate fatigue at a higher rate. So use something like 0.1 for the "timer modifier" and 0.5 for the "fatigue modifier". You could even keep the "distance modifier at 1.

This would give you a jump timer of 8.875 minutes, with a fatigue of say 5.45 or so. Your next max range jump gets you something like a 13.71 minute jump timer, with a fatigue of roughly 24.18. This would let you make a lot of jumps relatively quickly, but still saddle you with a large fatigue modifier which would impair your ability to hop in other jump-capable ships and carry on operations normally.

This would also give a lot of tunability to devs, who can then independently tweak the impact of distance jumped on jump timers, distance jumped on fatigue accumulation, and the impact of fatigue on jump timers.

Factor in that most established alliance can use multiple pilots for a given logistics supply line it wont even be that bad for the defenders. Even if you have to make 4 or even 5 jumps if you have 3 alts and/or players you can do it with minimal fatigue. The typical JF will likely be able to make 2 jumps before the multiplicative effects take effect which is where fatigue really ramps up. Thus, the logistics guys can keep fatigue low, and wait out their timers while safely docked and chatting on TS/Mumble/etc. I personally have 2 alts that can fly a JF, and I have 3 more that can be skilled up in a couple months. Just by myself I could startegically place alts and cyno alts to get the job done.

Frankly, if anyone thinks this change has a pony in it with respect to breaking up the big blocks is a dumb ass. It might reduce hot dorpping and lead to more gate travel, maybe even more roaming, but I don't see it changing the political landscape all that much.

I'm not even convinced it will resul tin more people in space on average. Alot of systems are still going to suck for generating income after this change. Those systems will still be largely empty, because thier income potential sucks.

And yet, we still did freighter convoys, all the way out to the dronelands from Molden Heath, successfully, several times.

But hey, nullsec pilots were real manly men back then, who did what was needed even when it was difficult. We were hard men, and we made hard choices. Unlike the namby pamby risk averse lazy nullbears we got these days.

Get off my lawn.

No. Ceptors work just fine. Strategically place your jump clones and put ceptors in those stations and no need to use BLOPs.

Threadnaught is running low on 'topes... moar posting!

And they wouldn't be able to do anything for 24 hours with my idea. Normal caps can't jump to covert cynos. That literally makes it better for them to use interceptors, which could also get the pilot anywhere he wants in 20-30 minutes relatively risk free.

Interceptor making my idea on the 24 hour limit kinda blah as is.