EVE Information Portal

One more thing, and then I'll shut up for the night. One of the biggest advantages of Blops in the real world is stealth. What good is a cloaked covert cyno ship if all it takes to know it is there is a quick glance at local chat? Please CCP, find a way to not have these ships' pilots show in local chat. Better yet, eliminate local chat in null and make it like wormhole space.

I live in a wormhole, and I have to say I love the lack of local. There is a real feeling of constantly being watched (probably because someone is always cloaked and watching :) ), and we are forced to actually defend our space. We watch our known wormholes, and are constantly vigilant of new ones opening in our space. We use DScan a lot, and have gotten very good with it. You want conflict drivers? Dropping local chat would be huge. As things sit, when I jump into an occupied nullsec system, I suddenly see a rush of ratting nullbears jumping to their station or into a POS. They sit in a safe spot and wait for me to leave, taunting me from inside their bubbles. This is not the way it should be. In wormhole space, we go about our daily business regardless of who might be cloaked up in our space. We respond to threats in our space with force. We don't hide from enemies unless we absolutely know we will get crushed. We lose ships, we kill ships. We have FUN!

To all you nullbears out there: This is what being in 0.0 space is about. It's not about ratting, it's about PvP. It's about risk. If you want to shoot red crosses all day in complete safety, go run missions in highsec. I'm not saying that we don't shoot red crosses. We absolutely do! It's what we do once a week or so to finance our PvP for the rest of the week, and we do it without knowing if someone is about to drop on us in a fleet of T3's and wipe out our escalation fleet. We take a calculated risk, and reap the reward for doing it well. We employ scouts watching for new wormholes, and are vigilant about using DScan to look for anything out of the ordinary. If nullsec pilots learned these skills, they would make for much more fun hunting for us. Not fun because it would be easy, fun because it would be harder. As things sit, we have to rely on them not seeing us in local. That's a crap shoot at best, and requires no skill on their part to evade us.

Picture the two scenarios below:

In the first, things are the way they are now. An unknown pilot jumps through a wormhole into a system with several ratting carriers. One of them spots the new pilot in local. They warp off to the station and taunt the newcomer in local until he gives up and leaves.

In the second, there is no local. The newcomer jumps into system, cloaks up, and begins to DScan the system. He finds the ratters and gets close to them. He calls for his fleet to jump in and warp to him. He decloaks and points a carrier. As his friends enter warp, they suddenly hear the first pilot yelling on comms that he has just been jumped by the carriers' cloaked defense force, and now there are several other ships on DScan incoming that were hidden in a station. A brawl ensues with casualties on both sides. The survivors retreat back to the wormhole to lick their wounds, and the dead wake up in a fresh clone.

Which scenario sounds like more fun to you? I know what I would choose. Adversity to risk leads to a flat, boring landscape for everyone.

I had something similar in mind, but the "stress" should been put on the ship itself, or else you could just bypass it with another fresh toon. Someone said you could just repackage to remove the stress from the ship, but why should you ever be able to repackage a capital ship once assembled?

If you have a moros I would like to take it off your hands.

Show us the confirmation screen or it's fake.

And why go halfway?
Biomass or get out.

250 pages yay \o/

And another point I meant to emphasize here and neglected the first time..........

There is more than one kind of PVP in this game, and that is the economic PVP. I have both combat alts and Industrial alts, and I assure you that Polo here values every billion he makes just as much as any my fleet pilots (or anyone else's for that matter) value their killmails. My fleet alts are actually kinda bored with the 'doughnut' :)

There is more than one kind of fun to be had here, and I will take umbrage at ANYONE...... be they player or developer... who proposes things that can crush that fun. Normally I am a 'care-less' bear when it comes to the forums. That is, I could care less what all the insta geniuses, trolls and ragequitters are always carrying on about. I'd rather play than talk. But the ideas put forth in Grayscale's blog are frankly so potentially toxic to both fun and play balance for small entities in nullsec that I have devoted much of my playing time today to this thread. Hopefully my ideas have enough merit to alter some of the negative thinking that seems to be driving these changes.

What concerns me is the flailing that CCP seems to be doing with this. They have no real plan here. They have admitted as much that they do not really know what the end state of all these massive changes will be.
It reminds me of a desperate flail of a person being choked, just before they pass out.
It's fine to want to nerf power projection. Some changes are warranted. Rather than going nuclear (with no real consultation with the CSM) and putting massive changes out like this (with no real idea of the end state), go back and try something smaller. Better to undernerf and adjust than overnerf and adjust. Players that will leave if this goes through will not come back.

Your a demanding little troll, but entertaining so I'll humor you:

http://imgur.com/VL4gPcL


And **** Biomassing.... 'sometimes' CCP wises up, or years later fixes the fix that was supposed to fix something that actually broken even more...

This game really needs a tech II Orca, a black ops orca.

With a fleet of mining redeemers, tech II ore frigates NC. has the ability mine ore in hostile space, but post patch our rorquals will have a harder time keeping up. Is there any way CCP can add a black ops orca to act as haulers for our black ops mining fleet?

5000th post!

E: goddamnit somebody got their post removed