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Why the f*ck do you NEED to move 1 million m3 to null, per week?

By m3, t2 mats represent a tiny portion of any build. Take the Golem for example, requires a sh*t ton of mats to build, but only ~3000 m3 worth of t2 mats. Each blockade runner can carry enough T2 materials to build 3 T2 Battleships with room to spare.

Fuel blocks for towers? Use the ice from your local ice belts.

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What the hell, I'll throw another opinion into the pool (239 pages later):

The latest devblog update from CCP Greyscale details a three phase plan for a substantial overhaul of the way nullsec works beginning with tackling force projection with the inbound release of Phoebe next month. The majority of the active 0.0 player base have long since asked for changes to stop and even reverse the stagnation that has only become too predominant in today's Eve Online, and yesterday's devblog illustrated CCP's intention in homing in on these issues and working to correct them. While I agree with the consensus is that this is indeed a significant and long overdue step into the right direction, the question becomes what about the current game plan makes the most sense, and what about it makes the least? Further, how do we fix that? 

One of CCP's intentions for this upcoming release is to reduce the "global" on-call availability of capital force projection - practically speaking, this will break up the game's universe up more; it works to reverse the effect that capital and supercapital proliferation has had on Eve Online in recent years, so while this overall is a positive and forward moving direction for CCP to take, I question what the developers could do better to address key issues laid out in their plan, namely how this will adversely impact alliance logistical functions and services. While I understand that this isn't supposed to represent a silver bullet to fix all of nullsec's problems, it remains to be seen how one could practically live in outlying regions like Oasa without having to visit highsec for things - at least on an organizational level. I think it's awesome that CCP wants to encourage industry in ~lawless space~, but right now it is not possible nor feasible to build everything one needs locally especially when you take into account alliance ship doctrines complete with standardized T2 fittings - and certainly not at the quantity that is typically required to keep subcapital fleets rolling. 

Speaking for the short term, one of the best ways to alleviate that problem is by considering an immunity for the jump range reduction to 5 LY for the jump freighter class and by extension, the Rorqual. This way, alliances are restricted by jump fatigue and increased fuel consumption, but not to the point of being paralyzing and unduly overbearing especially to an already tiny demographic of players working on an already very time consuming and monotonous area within the game. 

You are simply showing that you have no understanding of how people actually use towers in this game. Towers like ships have different bonuses per race. Breaking things down to "use the tower you have local fuel for" kills what is actually good complexity.

The interconnected nature of the Eve economy is one of the most amazing features of this game and one of the few areas where the "butterfly effect" really comes in to play. The links need to remain strong. Period.

Not in null, haven't been in a long time, except for the occasional titan bridge for hunting purposes.

Don't do logistics which is why I have asked logistics folks to contact me and send in concerns/suggestions. I especially would love to chat with the specialized frog transport folks if they want to bend my ear.

No, I don't think the symbiosis is dead, yet. But it took a hit as EVERYTHING did and should when you make a change this big. That is how Eve works. Markets, mining, everything is gonna feel this, probably in ways we cannot predict.

That does not mean we shouldn't, it means we have to watch and learn and maybe (just maybe) react.

for the record: when I moved out of null it was in a carrier. that ain't gonna happen again, is it?

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Has anyone considered how SOMER blink is going to move their Ishukone Scorpions with these new game mechanics?!

If your about interaction and game play TIMERS (one month!) that prevent you from PLAYING (means no interaction) is an ANTI-PLAY feature

CCP must consider ship spinning a great game mechanic so they figured CAP pilots would really love more of it

This is supposed to be SANDBOX where the PLAYERS decide how to play.

There is a game mechanic in EVE called CAPS that have JUMP capability with a crap load of skill training time to master. Makes Logistics, Relocating, Industry and Large Fleet fights possible.

GAME PLAY is about GAME PLAY not SHIP SPINNING and MONTH LONG TIMERS

make features that spawn Game Play not TIMERS

WAIT TO PLAY = NO PLAY

Make all of 0.0 space usable. There's so many systems in each region that are simply ignored and unused because their worthless.

DO something that makes EVE PILOTS MOVE and make EVE Pilots stop spinning their ships.

14 hours per week per roundtrip. No one in their right mind wants that kind of a PITA. You are either trolling or need to admit you are wrong about the JF nerf.

You assume to much

Huge problems require huge solutions. Jump Freighters are not a part of the problem. If you ban them from carrying ships, they cannot be used for power projection and should remain unnerfed, so should the Rorqual. Otherwise you are stabbing trade in the heart far more than you are breaking up the doughnut.