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The correct change to allow JFs to be pirated would be not letting capitals dock immediately when cynoing in, and/or not letting capitals jump while invulnerable.

Reading the speed Nerf forums are a treat! In 2008 there were several "Eve is now dead" posts. Things never change

You could replace the last with "OR USE THE SELF DESTRUCT BUTTON" and, in a lot of cases, it would be just as accurate.

Yes, you can have scouts. Yes, you can have escorts. But, you can't have these things all the time (Unless you're telling me to buy another account, in which case, #$%& you as there's too much of that BS in the game already; if CCP wants to require multiple alts to play the game, then that's what the base subscription should cover)

So that means the default is waiting someplace safe for your fatigue to go down. And when you're piloting a 7-billion ISK ship with no defensive capabilities and several billion more ISK in the hull, that's still a competitive proposition even when you have a proper escort set up.

It seems like there should be some way to stop the heavy load on logistics pilots... like.... if you could just.... BUILD the stuff you want IN NULL instead of lie... buying it from Jita.

CCP should look into this as a potential "work around"

Oh wow did the JF calculations now, they can pretty much ignore Fatigue, they only have to worry about the shorter range.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PGt-QAhdRK3ndkpxkL5CVf5tegcrW0OoKSqKLCz0Y8w/edit#gid=1961151283

Counter proposal for the jump delay timer.

Link below is a google excel doc. of cumulative delay timer that incrementally gets longer with each jump.

http://bit.ly/1rOpzTs

It’s a logarithmic scale.

So when you jump you get two timers.

First timer is the jump drive timer; the second timer is jump drive activation delay.

The jump drive timer is a base 30 minutes and every time you make a jump it will record the amount and add +1 to the "Jumps Made Since Timer Began" value. The jump drive timer will reset back to 30 min every time you make a new jump.
The jump drive activation delay is the timer you get once you have jumped. It’s the time you have to wait till the next jump can be made.

The equation for this is below.

http://i.imgur.com/EQpv4Cv.png

The principal of what happens here is that your delay timer gets bigger with each jump. The increment between each subsequent timer gets smaller, causing the graph to plateau out into a logarithmic curve. Eventually after so many jumps the delay timer will reach the same value as the jump drive timer, at which point it’s better with it out entirely and then start the process over.

Initially we found a problem with the function where doing three really short distance jumps would make the times later overall shorter but that has been fixed with the “Jump Amount Modifier.”

So e.g.
Jump 1 > 4.19 LY > delay timer of 6.42min > cumulative time 6.42min
Jump 2 > 4.7 LY > delay timer of 9.72 min > cumulative time 16.14min
Jump 3 > 4.206 LY > delay timer of 11.73 min > cumulative time 27.86min
Jump 5 > 4.564 LY > delay timer of 13.28 min > cumulative time 41.14min
Jump 6 > 1.855 LY > delay timer of 14.15 min > cumulative time 55.29min

Notice the increase in time getting smaller but the time overall still get longer. Bit like the diminishing returns of stacking nerf.

This Post and Equation was worked on by Sieonigh and myself.

Edit: We made this formula under the assumption that Jump Freighters and Rorquals do NOT have the 90% reduction, rather we think Black Ops should have this reduction (which we're implementing).

Edit #2: We've updated the Formula to include a proposed Black Ops Modifier (pretty much gets CCPs Jump Freighter and Rorqual 90% Modifier). You can view this on the Google Docs Spreadsheet listed above or by clicking the below link to the updated formula for Black Ops.
http://i.imgur.com/GdLdM3R.png

No because Goons don't rely on caps as much as other alliances/coalitions do. Goons would love to have slug fests using battleships and other sub caps.

And lastly you VASTLY over-state the number of JFs alts needed. Each first jump will impose a max fatigue just 0.6 and after about 6 minutes it will be gone entirely. The second jump will simple boost the fatigue to 1.2. Waiting 3 minutes will bring it back down under 1.

So on just a single logistics route no more than 10 alts will likely be needed. Make that activity something that helps in terms of "participation" and people may actually volunteer for it. Moving JF alts around via ceptors is also viable.

So, why don't you grow up?

As i understand you only have to wait 1 minute per ly you had traveled with your last jump because if your current jump fatigue is below 1 and that's the case you want to have, you only gain a fix 1+ly for the next one.

Nobody has shown that the proposal will prevent entities from defending their space.

These constraints apply to EVERYONE who wants to use a capital....defenders AND ATTACKERS.

Attackers will likely have farther to travel. Unless they deploy nearby (and thus advertise their intent and give the defenders time to deploy/shift assets) they'll likely suffer even greater fatigue.

So yes, defending becomes harder...but attacking does not become easier.

Christ, can't believe I had to explain such an obvious problem with this in terms of breaking up the current power blocks.

confirming eve is spreadsheets in space