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They're making this change to make player owned jump gates viable and desired. Because those will probably restore things roughly back to how they are currently when they go in. Or atleast take us some measure in that direction. If they added them now no one would have any reason to actually use them.

It seems that everyone has missed the point. It's not WHAT the megacorps do with these big shiny caps, it's WHY. And the answer is simple.... MONEY. It is more efficient for nullsec industrial entities, who usually handle daily belt raiders and ordinary roams on their own, to PAY for the heavy combat lifting. That is what rental space is all about. Before, the money was in the moons, so they became focal points, but now the money is in the SPACE itself.

If someone is gonna hurt you, and you get the rules changed to take away his gun, then it won't be long till he comes back with a knife. The only thing these changes will effect is the tools and methods of the overlords. Nothing being done here will change the actual status of nullsec at ALL. It just wastes a lot of valuable player time and limits the choices of every player in the game.

If you want to stop all this hot dropping, make renter empire UNPROFITABLE. Hit the mega corps where it hurts......

IN THE WALLET!!!

With just a few simple changes to CONCORD FEES, you can render uninhabited, low activity systems prohibitively expensive. Further, Increase the cost of ALL systems for sov owners above a certain number.

Examples:

a system with less than 5 active players (docked or in space..avg for 24hrs) and no industry/military/strategic index of at least one should cost ONE THOUSAND TIMES the base for every CONCORD sov bill to be paid.

ACTIVE systems, on the other hand...... with lets say.. over 30 pilots and with ANY index at 4 or higher, would pay the base costs for all facilities.

As for SIZE begin imposing sov cost increases for owners of... let's say.... 20 systems or more. Make them pay an extra 25% for ALL sov costs. 50 systems or more? PAY 50% MORE. Hey why not even give the REALLY small holder, like with only one or 2 systems a 50% cost break?

Now CCP, I can't mine the data like you can, so this is just an IDEA, but with a bit of adjusting, I'm willing to bet it will fix the blight issue. Smaller entities can them move in without the burden of rent, develop their own space and can spend the money they save on rent for SELF DEFENSE. Maybe, just MAYBE... no more nullbears.... Wow, what a concept....

Believe me , the megacorps will drop their vast tracts of nullsec blight like hot coals. with no rents there will be no mercenary reaction obligations. Pilots who have been forced to sit and wait all day for a fight wont get trigger happy and hot jump small roams simply out of desperate boredom. Those of you who whine about getting anvil dropped should remember that the guys on the other end must waste ENDLESS hours of their playtime simply waiting on your asses to come along......

All I'm seeing here is STICK. And I might ad a very clumsily wielded one. Maybe you have the wrong minds working on this problem..... I have always found that the CARROT not only works better, it leaves everyone with a more positive, constructive attitude as the process advances.


IN short, treating the SYMPTOMS doesn't get rid of the DISEASE..... you have to find a CURE.

As we get into the time past 24hours from the original posting, I fully expect to see several characters in this thread join Doomheim corp. Otherwise you're just full of it.

So this is the way I am understanding this...

You can fly to any station that is a medical one and put in the clone as usual.
A player corp will be able to designate a medical station.
A new player of 30 days or less can medical jump to a freshly joined corporation's designated medical station once per join.
A player over 30 days old may use the corporate medical jump once a year.

Is this correct?

Yeah let's just put more spin on that. Why not reset the timer on transfer that way cap pilots can sell toons to each other for a couple of Plex you get a 0 fatique toon! This is getting ridiculous.

Jump to the target system; kill target; jump out to your staging system.

There you go, two jumps "back and forth". [/quote]

Jump in, engage your target. Wait five minutes (most of that time should be reduced while you were killing your target)

Jump out with no fatigue.

Problem solved.
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its so simple.. why didn't i think of this!![/quote]

Because the person doesn't understand fatigue.

You jump 5 years. Your fatigue is 6. You have to wait 6 minutes to jump again. But your fatigue will be 5.4. If you jump another 5 light years youre fatigue will now be 5.4**6 = 32.4. That means you can't jump again for 32.4 minutes. To get ride of all that fatigue will take 324 minutes just under 5.5 HOURS.[/quote]

Oh so this stops you from persistently hot dropping people with no penalties to consider?

I understand fully. I also understand that this is CCPs intent. No more hot drop after hot drop.

Welcome to a nullsec filled with roaming gangs again.
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Nope welcome to a null sec where EVERY entry system and choke point is bubbled to high hell catching all the nice nub gangs taking carriers through gates killing them with bomber gangs.

Welcome to carriers and dreadnaughts carrying nothing but strontium because they can now gate travel sitting there with target painters and webs insta blapping all your ships with 15 sentry drones per carrier while tanking your ever reduced dps

The hot drop after hot drop already has penalties it's called isotobes and capacitor consumption it's not the hot droppers fault them being dropped can't counter what tasty ships they bring to the table.

I have a feeling ccp are getting tired of reading complaints from the un educated eve nubs out there about not being able to jump the character mumy or dady just bought and the capital they also funded through a dam gate.....

On a side note I better be able to use bombs in low sec.

by good for goons how? cuss you guys are going to have a billion JF alts for an empire that due to fatigue you cant defend?

These changes will actually bring back the fun in EvE, we will be able to find small scale fights in 0.0 again and not 50-60 jumps of desert systems before you find something. Industry can now make a difference localy, people will need to produce modules and ships and instead of just throw it all in jita, they will have more options and sell localy, in different spots or jita anyways.
Most of people dont get the idea of THINK LOCAL, eve will be big once again, now your jump drives will not be able to reach any place anywhere in 1 minute.
No more mindless hot drops "just because we are bored and lazy to make an actual fleet and fight for the fun"... People nowadays drops superr on cruisers, or even frigates ffs.
Kudos to CCP, they saw that the game was dying and have the courage to change it, back in the years we had 40k-50k players every day, now we barely reach 20k. That's what makes EvE unique, no other mmo devs would have the balls to do something like that, but eve is forever and icelandic balls are huge, god bless EvE! +100 CCP

Obs: For those that are complaining about the word "fatigue", just change it for "jump drive recharge time" or whatever

Fully supporting this and I believe all titan and super pilot owners do.

Perhaps you could develop an outpost upgrade that allows super/titan docking? Can be limiting such as no other upgrades can be installed in such system etc... but please, it is about time.

Yea, you can make a shorted jump to aim for system with big regional gate, jump the gate to cover several lightyears and on the other side just jump out.

All the whining in this thread is getting ridiculous. People want to have jita next door every few minutes, and they want to have ability to strike anywhere on map in 5 minutes...