Player Features and Ideas Discussion

EDITED: because of players taking advantage of the bountys, ccp had to do something to stop people getting rich easy, so they brought in the mode of bounty hunting as it is now, which tbh is a load of rubbish, when a player thinks bounty hunter he thinks of great REWARDS, with extensive planning and tracking.
I have been thinking hard about this and thought of a way that this could be achieved, and players would not be able to take advantage.

so the idea after edit is this.
go to the bounty office menu and you will see sub menus listed as follows.( these are just examples the amounts can be altered.)


Bounty, Values isk.

100isk/10milisk----------------- the price and values menu is to
10 mil isk/50milisk-------------------- help the player choose a target, the idea is the higher the bounty the more dangerous
50mil isk/125mil isk-------------- the target. but you will get the full total of the bounty, upon completion.
125milisk/700mil isk-------------- there could be a required number of kills for players in each section,
700mil/ and onwards------------- but 1 kill would be preferred.

After choosing the isk range of the bounty, a player will see a list of player cards with big ?????????? question marks on
you will not see any information on that player accept an estimated win on explosion e.g 5mill/to6mil this is to prevent, a player from setting up a bounty price, they can relate to, (eg 666isk) the anonymous cards, are so you cant select a player you know or own.(there could possibly be some sort of prevention on players selecting cards of people in there corp or alliance and maybe something to stop inactive players cards from appearing )

Now you have selected a card that you feel you can handle, you will get the players name and exact bounty and you are free to hunt, bare in mind that other players could have got the same card as you,
so you may have some conflict from another bounty hunter at some point.
if you feel you cant handle the player and you don't want the card for whatever reason you can drop it, and purchase another but only once a month. (possibly once a week or every 3 days)
a player could possibly be able to take on 3 cards at a time or more, but I doubt that will be feasible because every person in the game will be allowed to hold a card so 5 people with 3 cards will give you 15 targets which is not good.
I think 1 card at a time is fair. if you kill them you can always get another.

another idea is to make it so that the higher price ranged players come with the possibility for purchasing kill rights along with the bounty card,
this could work but to stop people taking advantage, the cards would have to be limited in away that only 10 players could have the same bounty/target otherwise I could see it being used for griefing.
you would have 1 month to complete the kill or the card would be lost and you would have to purchase a new 1..

The other great thing is the current bounty, system could stay in place so players, in pvp still get theyre little bonuses for killing a wanted player.
but the best thing about the idea is you will get the full bounty of the player, making bounty hunting a descent career choice :)
Hope you like it.

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I thought about features and ideas for this but seemed a subject for general discussion,
totally worth reading, if you can understand my grammar,
the point I make in my post is there is no reward from bounty hunting as it is, you gain a small pointless reward for your efforts
my ideas are roughly sketched out but they are good and benefit gameplay in a way that bounty hunting becomes a career choice.

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This.

To clarify, all you need is a list of players in the bounty window who also have killrights and/or -5 sec status or worse. Then you can pick your target, hit up a locator agent, check his KB for intel and add him to watchlist while you wait for the results, then go hunting. This would work well with the bounty mechanics as is. and would probably require very minimal coding to accomplish.

Yes but as it is, you have to be on grid with someone to know they have a killright. As it is, the list of players is "these people have bounties on them". It doesn't say whether or not you can actually claim it. If a player has a 5bil bounty, and is hanging out in highsec with +2 sec and no killrights, then there's no point hunting him.

I'm actually having trouble making sense of what you just said, but I think it's due to you having trouble making sense of how this all works. For one, learn how killrights work before assuming.

Let me tell you how I would operate if I was a bounty hunter, and players with killrights were flagged in the bounty system. First, I'd order the list from highest to lowest. I'd start at the top, working my way down, gathering intel on pilots until I found one I felt I could handle who was offline. Let's say for this story, it's a high sec lvl 4 mission runner. Then, I'd add them to watchlist and run a locate on them. While the pilot was still offline, I'd move myself and an alt with a probe ship into the system.

Once he came online and started running a mission, I'd probe him down, get a warpin for my main, then warp in. I would then target him, get into scram range, then activate killrights a moment before opening up.

It's quite simple, really, you just have to put some thought into it. All you're saying is that some people won't make very good bounty hunters if they don't put some thought into it. Personally, I don't think I much like the idea of a task that doesn't require much thought, especially if we're talking about what is essentially a PVP mechanic.

He can 'avoid' me all he wants after that, because the killright is gone, I got paid, and if he has any bounty left then it can't be claimed anyway. What you're saying is do away with the 20% thing though. There's a problem with that idea: it was the perfect solution to exploiting your own bounties. I can think of a few ways your card system would be exploitable to. No, the 20% payouts is working as intended.

This wont work because, players with -5 sec status live in low or null and you dont need any incentive to kill them because they all ready live in null or low thus killrights are meaningless. If you happen to find them in empire then they are likely in ships that are not worth killing - on their way to a gank or something or other - making both KR and bounties meaningless as they currently are.

Bounties are broken and will remain broken until CCP bites the bullet and allows bounties to work as an aggro transfer mechanism - kinda like an individual war dec.

I bet once bounty hunting gets fixed then everyone is going to go for FlumZ and Markee...

If I understand him correctly, he has resolved this by ensuring that the bounty office gives out cards from a pool and one is NOT now able to select a target to hunt otherwise in any way using the bounty system, and bounties do not exist outside of the bounty agents.