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well we know that's not true.

you can fit 1 mega in a jump freighter, but you can't fit 1000 megas in a jump freighter. so moving 1000 requires more time and effort as you have to make multiple trips.

i mean, i hate to see facts get in the way of a good whine but yeah...

well you're the one that told him it should only work if the jfs are owned by different people (as if that matters in the slightest)

so we're kind all wondering what you're whining about, actually.

hurray... another big blow for my capital business

deliverying capitals will be a pain in the ass now.
Hey.. maybe CCP could introduce an implant that removes/lowers the jump cooldown thingy and prevents you from firing weapons :)

Have you ever seen the CFC changing staging system. Effort aint a thing.
Also a JF dnt hold 1000s of megas.

I see a future were we have multiple JF alts.

Fair enough; then you can haul 16 megas just as easy as 1 mega and its still better for the guy who has to haul less.

So in a way it is nerfing the blob, unless the blob will employ more logistics, which they should since they have the manpower. And the other blob wont be able to jump them with caps all the time:)

Overall, EvE wins.

CCP, have you taken into account the costs in terms of fuel consumption for JF-logistics?

As far as I understand the changes your main intent is to increase travel times.
And you say you do not want to nerv logistics too heavy by introducing that role bonus.

But lets have a look at a logistics route I am flying on a regular base.
Currently it consists of 3 jumps in an almost straight line over a distance of 27 ly consuming 30k of helium isotopes.

Using the dotlan calculator setting jdc to 0 I calculated the route I would have to fly after those changes.
Because there are gaps that I can not cross with a 5 ly max range I will not be able to fly in a straight line any more.
Instead I have to fly a big detour resulting in my new route covering a distance of 54 ly consuming 60k of helium isotopes thus doubling the cost for that logistics operation.

I do not mind the changes and I can live with the longer travel times and all that.
But that cost-factor in my opinion IS the heavy nerv you wrote you would want to avoid.

Is it intended or have you just overlooked that fact?
Maybe reduce the fuel consumption amount for JF as part of the changes or instead of giving them the currently planned role bonus give them a range extending role bonus?

effort? do you even know what's the meaning of that word?
for all these retards saying this will help "the little guy" becose of "freighter convoys" let me ask you something: when was the last time you did 100 AU in a freighter? do you even know that a warp speed for a freighter today it's several times slower that it was years ago? how the hell will a small gang be abble to protect a freighter moving thru a hostile alliance space when you need hours to move it? yea hours of gate to gate warping a freighter into the middle of a hostile coalition space with a small gang for support; in the time you need to pass 2 systems you will have every red and their dog from a 30 jump radius coming for your freighter; great help for the "small guys" CCP

i am one of those "small guys"; for the last 10 years(with some small breaks) i've been living in venal. my alliance have 170 members, our blue list have 2-3 names in it; when this change hit, CCP will manage to do what no one ever did: cut off our supply routes to empire. how is that helping us CCP ?

you leave us basically 2 choices: move out or join CFC.
like a said great help for the "small guy" CCP, next time you want to help us, PLS DON'T

So can i use a gate to get a cap into hi-sec?

Thinking about this CCP could you clarify a couple of things;

1. If titans can Supers can use gates will they also be allowed to dock in stations
2. If DDs work in lowsec, will certain structures be given some protection from them? i.e FW I.Hubs (worst thing that could happen in a bit entity decides to join FW and just alphas every I.Hub with DDs and due to the jump lag now no one is able to move fast enough to catch them
3. By allowing carriers to go through gates i think all of the changes you have tried to apply to the Nestor are now a complete waste, do you have anything in the pipeline to allow the Nestor to be worth it again

Because Eve has stagnated to ridiculous levels, so much so that subs are being lost and CCP is actually doing something.

I don't know what these changes, including the medium and long term changes alluded to in the dev blog, will do for Eve. Maybe they'll help, maybe they wont.

But, I do know that if nothing is done, eve will continue suffer as a result of this stagnation, perhaps terminally. So I'm ready to adapt to this next set of challenges.