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Solid point, if all this would not realy on gatting caught or not mechanics. But sadly is uber easy to catch people and uber0hard to avoid it, IF ppl really want to get you, so i fail to see this as a viable option. Now some will say a lot of ppl do fine, but look a bit closer: catching people hauling is not truly somethign organised or pointed right now. They gank mostly what they can get randomly. Just try to put a bit more of work on catching ppl and you will double market prices because of losses. Will be fun to see.

He's the original EVE hipster: "I started feeling fatigue before CCP implemented it"

I've never known anyone who talks so much but says so little.

I suggest we have one last big titan and super fight with PL/N3 the day before the patch. The winner wins EVE. The End. Unsub

Same here with Your pvp marauders



Edit. Don't want to make new post, video You linked isn't You, and i don't see marauders fleets, and You constantly using them (You scream about it soooo much in marauders topic and now... so yup You loose i win)

Some questions when a 200 or so cap fleet using a gate. What is going to happen tidi or the traffic control. Warping across a system in a cap is a timely process as it is already now you made it take longer because of tidi. Now with that said explain to me how this is going to bake Little Johnny's trip faster using gates. Go ahead and try it on the test server jump system to system with 200 + caps. I will wait....... ok now that I have waited 45 min for you to get 5 jumps. This is going to deter people from fighting with caps. Next note a cap battle has been fought and it is time to go home wait half the fleet can't go because the have a jump timer or they can now only jump 3.4586864 ly because the had to go to the battle. Half the cap fleet is now lost. How are you going to talk people into fighters in caps. Well guys here is the plan we should all be able to make it there I think and we might all be able to make it home I think. Nope not joining that fleet. And if you use a jump bridge it gives this trimmer too you might as well kill all logistics too while you at it. Take jb's out of the game. Heck while you at it take away scan an local chat

I will take that bet and mark my words you will all regret this. Why should the big alliances suffer from the lack of the rest being unable to oust them ? Seriously, wah, change the mechanics because we are too disorganized to win ? This is like taking a gold medal away because someone is stronger than another ?

So to take down some of the victors of the game, or so some perceive, lets just destroy the market and how ships jump ? Who here sees the lack of logic ? What happens when people realize this does not destroy the large alliance blocks and now there is a ****** market and less players ?

Everyone cries about the "blue donut", seriously can we not have a better term, but in place of it I propose a new term, The Ring of Fire. That's right, instead of them controlling a large section of space, they will simply suck up close to low sec and control the areas that are 5ly into null. No reason to have large cap fleets to pop around, you just made them holding sov much easier. For those of you that think you will sneak around, don't make me laugh.

I am unsubbing all my accounts today in preparation to what I know will be a debacle. And no, I am not part of any alliance that does anything besides provide minerals to the much larger ones. I will just train for the next 6 months on my single account and park all my capital ships, this has to be the dumbest thing I have seen conceived by CCP to date. And for the record I despise many of the neurotic asshats that are in the bigger alliances. However, this will not break them up, they do it themselves over time from their mental instability, it always happens that way. But what do I know after 11 years ?

What frustrates me the most is that the game progresses to a decent stage where I don't have to travel forever to get stuff down to null and now we are going to go back and revert to mind numbing processes because we don't like certain alliance holding sov ? Don't worry it will kill not only the big alliances, but it will eliminate the small ones. On top of it, it will destroy the current semi-balanced market for minerals and will raise T2 costs through the roof. When titans, supers and caps do not die all the time, mineral prices go down and down.

I have seen people say build locally ! What a laugh, you do not even know what it takes to produce T2 items do you ? Some things like T1 hulls are ok to produce locally, but the T2 stuff, no you can not produce this locally with any ease. But then again posting something like produce locally just shows that you do not work in the industry field.

All this because people cant oust a few alliances, great idea CCP. The most I can do is try to give my opinion of what a bad idea this is and unsub most my accounts. Other than that I will watch this kill a pretty fun game.

The cap blobbers will suffer moslty from this, then the POTENTIAL wannabe nullseccer that wants to settle CE and might want to blue some ppl to get there and then the Logi directors who will have to hire 5 more dedicated guys.

Also a war can be won not only by throwing endless ships @ the enemy.

Lots of questions but I don't think any answers will be forthcoming from this thread. It's turned into a whine, cheer and jeer thread.

It's a shame.

Things like:

- does fatigue persist after being podded?

If not (probably) then the pod-suicide changes make sense. Jump around until your timer fluffs up, suicide to another clone, hop in the capital and keep jumping. That "bypass" would be a problem for fixing "projection".

If so (hopefully not) then those changes make no sense and fatigue will cause a huge problem for cap specialized pilots - they got podded with lots of fatigue on them - time to log out and find something else to do until it fades? Not good.

- if SOMETHING isn't done, cyno jammed systems will completely stop wars being as capitals would all have to come in through a gate to get to the deeper parts of that empire's space.

Any idea how easy it is to setup a "no one will every survive this camp!" type gate block point? TiDi is cool but having how many dozens or hundreds or even thousands of ships pop a gate at the same time to try and fight such a camp...

That's asking to crash the server - just so they can simply *TRY* and run a war? ... Not good.

- Freighters are missing from that listing of lowered fatigue. That's not good and needs addressing. You have to use these to setup certain structures only possible in nullsec (outposts).

- blops changes = "odd" but may change how they are used. What other changes would prevent them from "dust bin" ships?

They don't seem very viable for how they *ARE* used in the future. As such something else would need to be added for them to avoid being junk to clutter up a hangar.

So on and so forth.

It just doesn't seem this thread will be viable for asking such questions and the like.

It is, because they face the same problem. Not difficult to understand?

Forgive me but isn't the whole point of changing null to reduce the need to have blues?