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Sorry bud this will not effect them any. They will now control the choke points and no need to have to have their cap fleet in the outskirts of their area. You guys just don't get how big alliances work. They will work around it, however the smaller alliances will GO AWAY because not being able to logistically support their operations.

Those that think its going to correct large fleets are smoking some good crack.

I think you will find any sov changes apart from "click this buttan every hour or we wtf your sov" after this steaming pile of **** will make a difference you are way off base.

Either best CCP troll or 07 Greyscale enjoy unemployment.

Relegated to the bottom of page 96 so I'm at least confident in the fact that I know that no one will ever read this, but I would just like to throw my abject horror into the fray after reading these changes. Seriously CCP, what the **** are you smoking?

Having said that let me throw in my 2 cents about what should have been done- knowing full well hat the ship has already sailed on this one and that this is a really **** idea to begin with (but less **** than what I just read) and as a cap pilot I already hate it myself, but how about, instead of cool down timers on caps, you have spool up timers instead. It could be haltable so that you could stop it at any time during the spool up and reset the timer to zero, or it could be something like the micro-jump drive where once you hit jump you're stuck vulnerable for however many minutes it takes with no way to stop it. The amount of time taken to spool up should be relative to the size of the ship: bigger ships take longer to jump once the button is pushed.

Either way, you should be unable to target anything -call it subspace Einstein-Bose Scotty the docking manager is hitting the bottle again and pissed on the warp core interference or whatever made up ****. No more remote reps, no more drones for whatever amount of time.This way it still limits how fast a cap fleet can move, but also makes it so that caps can't just instantly disengage the moment things go pear shaped. This would make a good subcap force to protect any large cap force pretty much mandatory, it would certainly give new meaning to the term "committing caps", and would lead to a lot more dead ships, which to me at least is a good thing. The changes as described now do nothing to limit cap usage or add extra risk to balance the reward of these ships, it just makes it a huge f-ing pain in the ass to play the game day-to-day.

The problem right now that everyone is fixated on is how fast caps can move, but the real underlying problem is how invincible they are once on field. interceptors can cross regions in minutes, but because they are so impotent against anything but a handful of T1 frigates no one cares. Make them more vulnerable in battle and you retain their infinite usefulness as space buses, but give large power blocks something to seriously think about before committing.

Either way, this proposed system is so F***ing convoluted that it makes crimewatch look like a mechanic from hello kitty online. Please do not just add complexity to fix a broken system.

I bet you a billion ISK that if these changes go through the way they are stated now that you are wrong.

Do you really think Goonswarm is going to be able to continue to hold delve after this change?

Adjusted that for you, you poor single account poor.

And null ore anomalies

definitely look like some interesting changes, we'll see how that pans out soon I guess.

All these changes are completely unnecessary.

The biggest problem with force projection is the carrier/super carrier blob.

NC. called it the wreaking ball but whatever. That fleet of ships could pretty much go across the universe in 5 cynos... and yes i feel that is a bit to powerful.

I propose we nerf the range of all jump capable ships to that of a titan.

By moving carriers and super carriers to the range of a titan it would slow down force projection Hugely.. anyone thats ever had to move a titan any good distance will tell you its a massive pain in the ******* even when done right. 10-20 cynos to go anywhere. If you are a region that is guarded by a nice jump wall it makes it even harder to move around.

CCP, you are nerfing everything just to get 2 ships under control, its unnecessary and game breaking in alot of ways.

Do us all a favor... Dont screw over 0.0 logistics, dont add jump fatigue to force us to wait for an arbitrary timer to tick down. Dont remove the ability for people to death clone. Finally, for the love of god, dont allow capitals to use gates...