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Sorry m7 was dropping my Archon from Branch on some guys in Aridia who had the nerve to try and use 3 battlecruisers (BATTLECRUISERS IN 2014 LOL)

I'm sorry, you think CCP did this? Umm, no, it's you that hide behind your massive alliance like little cowards and then cry like little girls when things don't go your way or you lose a dread.

tbh, id even make a harsher travel change

Every pilot who jumps their cap the 1st time is supposed to have his finger chopped off. Like with the Yakuza.

I'm sure that CCP Greyscale has been keeping a close watch on what has been going on in this thread, as proven by the constant blue posts, but I'd like to still lay out my concerns that I and other players have. Most of these concerns have been put forward in this thread already, but I would like to still put in my 2cents to make sure these concerns are heard.

There are reddit threads forming about the math behind the jump fatigue and this was already addressed.
Chain jumping, as silly as it would be with the new system, would easily cause fatigue lasting for years. Please put a cap on maximum fatigue as to prevent silly amounts of fatigue accumulating on characters. A maximum of a week would be my suggestion, but take that as you will.

Jump freighters and rorquals. The range nerf of a maximum of 5 light years seems to be super heavy handed and makes null logistics extremely hard. I can get behind leaving fatigue in for jump freighters as is, but I can't see a reason for the massive nerf to their jump range. Please take another look at this and see if the massive reduction of jump range is necessary for jump freighters along with other capitals. Also to note, due to the Rorqual's innate bonuses to its hull, there are already talks of battle rorquals on our alliance forums, so please keep that in mind when taking a look at these two ships.

Blops is heavily reliant on blops drops and lumping the jump fatigue to cover black ops seems like it may kill black ops completely. I understand that leaving blops as is with the current changes being implemented would be a massive buff for bombers and the already prevalent amount of bombers in nullsec would only increase. Their ability to punch far above their weight and deal with invading fleets make them incredibly strong and removing jump fatigue from blopsing would be a bad move. however, i still feel that there should still be some thought put into the final numbers of blops fatigue.

capitals taking gates seems to be an interesting approach to relieve the reliance on jump travel by capitals. I find that this may cause issues with certain types of gate camps being more prevalent in losec. Considering putting a spawn distance limiter by mass to gate travel as well with a minimum of 15km and a maximum of whatever devs feel would be good for balance similar to how wormhole mechanics were recently changed.

a statement on suicide clones being removed has already been addressed by CCP Greyscale, but I'd like to still mention that removing it completely from the game may hurt the entire playerbase rather than help. Simply putting a timer on changing your station to be tied together with jump clone timer or on a separate timer may be prudent.

personal thought as an addendum to the jf and rorq changes.
with the reduction of supplies that can be imported from jita to the fringe systems of null, there is a severe supply bottleneck of hisec minerals available in nullsec. With the crius patch of adding a new source of mex and pyerite to nullsec ores and the increase to refine rates, the amount of minerals are still heavily skewed towards the high end materials that are just not needed in such amounts for any ships. CCP may want to take a look at the mineral distribution of nullsec ores if they really do wish for a diverse economy in null. Currently it seems that industry corps are relegated to mining in null, refining and using what they can and shipping out the high value ore and importing low value ore. I believe that with this reduction of megacyte, zydrine, noxium coming from hisec may hurt industry across the board. This of course includes moongoo. With the requirements of trying to move large amounts of moongoo into hisec to sell, will lower supply and thus increase prices.

I think i may have ranted a bit long, but these are the concerns i had after reading this devblog and thinking about it for the last couple of hours.

If we're going full ******, then let's really go.

Open hisec to caps and supercaps, and make it so that any pilot can have the pending penalties removed from his character by flying, with no jumps, his or her cap/supercap out from nul to one of several objects in a .8 system somewhere and receiving special training (jovian jump pilot advanced implant insertion. probably painful, likely rectal). Can't hop into one that's already in hi or lowsec...have to fly it out. No jumping allowed, anywhere.

Oh, they should probably all be suspect-flagged as soon as they cross from low...if they aren't already at -5 or better.

Content, let's really have some.

Caps are meant to use jump drives to travel not to use gates i agree bad Ideas

CCP, we screamed when you issued the jump fuel nerf, and in comparison to this, it's insignificant.

I don't know what you're picturing, but if you proceed on this course, you will arrive to a barren game.

I have lost hope in your ability to work with the playerbase to improve the game, you just seem do do your own thing.

I'm wishing I hadn't resubbed two alts this morning.

I find it funny that most of the whining and wailing and gnashing of teeth comes from the major power blocs. Of course goons and NC. and PL and BL are going to be talking about the 11ty billion accounts they'll let expire, they're the ones who won't be able to have this ridiculous monolithic control over the entirety of the map anymore, and drop capitals ships on frigate gangs from two regions away.

That being said, it's not all roses. JF bros and newbros trying to get to null could use a hand, and who knows, maybe 5 light years is a bit too short. But it's not as if the patch is happening tomorrow; there will be plenty of time to yell at CCP until they get it right.

But still, try and stop thinking about these changes as if they were being dropped into the current environment. They will cause a massive change to the order of the galaxy, and you need to think about them in context of that new situation.

Imagine a world where you won't have to jump your caps halfway across the galaxy to find fights. A world where the vast majority of space isn't a supersafe carebear paradise, because anything bigger than an atron gets dropped by bored cap pilots. A world where the largest ships in the game can't traverse space faster than the smallest and fastest. A world where you actually have enemies, and not just people you blow up for funsies when you're sick of ratting. This is the world we're moving towards with these changes. They may not be perfect, but they're a step in the right direction and a damn sight better than more stagnation. Keep crying, powerblocs. I'll be out there having fun.

man i cannot wait till you realize just how badly you ****** up

Replacing exponential growth of fatigue with logistic growth would do the trick nicely. Also give designers two parameters to tune the system. For details see post #1703 in this thread:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5073161#post5073161