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Blue Wrecks and Fleet History

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Luna Lockhearts
Defiant Liberation Corporation
Defiant Collective
#1 - 2014-09-24 21:08:51 UTC
So I recently joined RvB and although I'm enjoying myself, there is one thing that seems to happen every time, and at every large fight, and that is someone in one of the two fleets blueing all the wrecks for their alt to come in with a Noctis to tractor in all the wrecks and loot/salvage it all for himself.

What I'd like to see is just a simple notification in the fleet history where it says who blued the wrecks, we're all out there fighting and loosing ships and for those that are lucky enough to survive at the end all they get is to see a Noctis undoubtedly owned by a greedy sod in one of the corps run off with all of the spoils.

I've only been in RvB for a few weeks and I've already given up at trying to get any loot.

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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#2 - 2014-09-26 01:51:43 UTC
Luna Lockhearts wrote:
So I recently joined RvB and although I'm enjoying myself, there is one thing that seems to happen every time, and at every large fight, and that is someone in one of the two fleets blueing all the wrecks for their alt to come in with a Noctis to tractor in all the wrecks and loot/salvage it all for himself.

What I'd like to see is just a simple notification in the fleet history where it says who blued the wrecks, we're all out there fighting and loosing ships and for those that are lucky enough to survive at the end all they get is to see a Noctis undoubtedly owned by a greedy sod in one of the corps run off with all of the spoils.

I've only been in RvB for a few weeks and I've already given up at trying to get any loot.


Just wondering, even if you had this information what would you do with it?
Never been in a situation to check if the character salvaging a wreck shows up in fleet but I know that anyone who loots a wreck shows up.
Suitonia
Order of the Red Kestrel
#3 - 2014-09-26 02:09:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Suitonia
Donnachadh wrote:

Just wondering, even if you had this information what would you do with it?
Never been in a situation to check if the character salvaging a wreck shows up in fleet but I know that anyone who loots a wreck shows up.


It shows up if you're in fleet and the FC has enable the setting. In the situation the OP describes, the Noctis 'alt' is not in fleet and is looting the wrecks as a neutral party so it does not display. However, The problem that the OP is having is that someone in his fleet has made the wrecks available to all, and that person is unknown because this action is not logged, which then allows a third party to take all the wrecks without becoming a suspect.

RvB operates in highsec, in lowsec/nullsec this wouldn't be a problem because you could just kill the Noctis. But in this situation because of the wreck flagging being unlogged, someone can mark the wrecks as available to all, then take it all with a second character which is immune to repercussions as it does not become a suspect.

Presumably, if they knew 'who' was flagging the wrecks, they could use that information to bar that person from joining fleets or kick them from the corporation.

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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#4 - 2014-09-26 14:30:56 UTC
Suitonia wrote:
Donnachadh wrote:

Just wondering, even if you had this information what would you do with it?
Never been in a situation to check if the character salvaging a wreck shows up in fleet but I know that anyone who loots a wreck shows up.


It shows up if you're in fleet and the FC has enable the setting. In the situation the OP describes, the Noctis 'alt' is not in fleet and is looting the wrecks as a neutral party so it does not display. However, The problem that the OP is having is that someone in his fleet has made the wrecks available to all, and that person is unknown because this action is not logged, which then allows a third party to take all the wrecks without becoming a suspect.

RvB operates in highsec, in lowsec/nullsec this wouldn't be a problem because you could just kill the Noctis. But in this situation because of the wreck flagging being unlogged, someone can mark the wrecks as available to all, then take it all with a second character which is immune to repercussions as it does not become a suspect.

Presumably, if they knew 'who' was flagging the wrecks, they could use that information to bar that person from joining fleets or kick them from the corporation.


Thank you for the clarification, I now more fully understand the OP and the reason for the post.
Luna Lockhearts
Defiant Liberation Corporation
Defiant Collective
#5 - 2014-09-26 14:43:50 UTC
Yea Suitonia explains it pretty much perfectly, I'm only a member in RvB so I don't know what the higher ups would do with the information exactly, but I'd like to think they'd warn the person first, and only kick if they keep doing it. We're all loosing ships and as we're always at war there is a risk in doing any kind of mission running and mining would probably be suicide, so the only way some people can afford to stay in RvB is to loot what they can.

That said though RvB does have an open door policy so those who do need to leave to make isk can join back up whenever they want, so it's not that big of an issue, I'd just like to see everyone get a bit of something from the fights rather than just one person.

Some people are like Slinky's, Not much good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.