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A Reminder Regarding Real Life Harassment

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#681 - 2014-09-12 13:25:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Epeen
Dave Stark wrote:


so racism and real life threats are fine as long as i keep it in the game, and it's not a new player?


You're either trolling or have never been out of high sec. Local chat is 24/7 racism and death threats.

It's not right, but it's near impossible to keep a lid on. If you see something, petition it. That's the only way to get a handle on it. But no one ever does. So here we are, not using the tools that CCP give us and whining that they're not doing anything about the problem.

Mr Epeen Cool
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#682 - 2014-09-12 13:26:08 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
What concerns me (and frankly should concern everyone) is people are being banned because of who their friends are.


Show me your friends and I will tell you who you are - unknown

No tears shed for anyone who got banned.


The wowser mistakes the world for a penitentiary and themselves as the warden - old Australian proverb.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#683 - 2014-09-12 13:27:26 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:


yeah, it's fine that they get to decide it because it's their game.
except how can we follow their rules, because it's their game, if they don't tell us what they are?


There are only two rules of any importance and they are not hard to understand.

1) Don't **** with newbs.
2) Keep it in the game.

Like I said before. If you don't know when you are breaking one of these rules, you are too stupid to be a part of the community.

Mr Epeen Cool


so racism and real life threats are fine as long as i keep it in the game, and it's not a new player?


Not just that.

Racism, real life threats, and doxxing. [edit: Oh, and sexually explicit insults


Oh, I have an old Australian convict proverb for this one as well.

The law locks up the man who steals the goose from the common, but leaves the greater criminal loose who steals the common from the goose

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#684 - 2014-09-12 13:27:45 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:


yeah, it's fine that they get to decide it because it's their game.
except how can we follow their rules, because it's their game, if they don't tell us what they are?


There are only two rules of any importance and they are not hard to understand.

1) Don't **** with newbs.
2) Keep it in the game.

Like I said before. If you don't know when you are breaking one of these rules, you are too stupid to be a part of the community.

Mr Epeen Cool


The problem with #2 is that it's none of CCP's goddamn business what I do OUTSIDE of their game. They dont own my computer, they dont pay for my TS server, and theyre not the freakin FBI. As I asked in another thread: If there's a player meetup at some pub around here and I get into a fistfight with one of the other players because he ganked my Venture, can I get banned?

What if I'm hosting the meetup at my house?


\m/ O.o \m/

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Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#685 - 2014-09-12 13:29:18 UTC
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:
Something I was going to post however I figured that it would result in some fancy slanty text and an ISD tag. (And no this was not a personal attack, it's just you know vague to know, you know?) So I just figured I'd write this. Keep your hands up, don't put them down. DJ Turn up that song! We'll dance until sun comes up!


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The roof!

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Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q
Ushra'Khan
#686 - 2014-09-12 13:38:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Zen Guerrilla
Ssabat Thraxx wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:


yeah, it's fine that they get to decide it because it's their game.
except how can we follow their rules, because it's their game, if they don't tell us what they are?


There are only two rules of any importance and they are not hard to understand.

1) Don't **** with newbs.
2) Keep it in the game.

Like I said before. If you don't know when you are breaking one of these rules, you are too stupid to be a part of the community.

Mr Epeen Cool


The problem with #2 is that it's none of CCP's goddamn business what I do OUTSIDE of their game. They dont own my computer, they dont pay for my TS server, and theyre not the freakin FBI. As I asked in another thread: If there's a player meetup at some pub around here and I get into a fistfight with one of the other players because he ganked my Venture, can I get banned?

What if I'm hosting the meetup at my house?


I really don't get all you people trying to make up weird comparisons so you can weasle your way around a few rules that are really, really simple and very much common sense. Just ******* behave like decent human beings. It really is simple as that.


I honestly feel that those crying they were banned for no reason at all are most likely just lying, you know? Maybe to save face, maybe just to stirr up some more **** 'cause they can't log in anymore?

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Dave Stark
#687 - 2014-09-12 13:41:40 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:


so racism and real life threats are fine as long as i keep it in the game, and it's not a new player?


You're either trolling or have never been out of high sec. Local chat is 24/7 racism and death threats.

It's not right, but it's near impossible to keep a lid on. If you see something, petition it. That's the only way to get a handle on it. But no one ever does. So here we are, not using the tools that CCP give us and whining that they're not doing anything about the problem.

Mr Epeen Cool


except what you've just cited as a problem has nothing to do with the discussion.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#688 - 2014-09-12 13:46:03 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
What concerns me (and frankly should concern everyone) is people are being banned because of who their friends are.


Show me your friends and I will tell you who you are - unknown

No tears shed for anyone who got banned.

That's ******* absurd.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#689 - 2014-09-12 13:46:43 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
What concerns me (and frankly should concern everyone) is people are being banned because of who their friends are.


Show me your friends and I will tell you who you are - unknown

No tears shed for anyone who got banned.


Yeah so I went to school with this guy who decided to go to Syria this year & cut off peoples heads because of religion. We got along pretty well so by your definition I'm definately a terrorist.

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#690 - 2014-09-12 13:48:14 UTC
Zen Guerrilla wrote:
Ssabat Thraxx wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:


yeah, it's fine that they get to decide it because it's their game.
except how can we follow their rules, because it's their game, if they don't tell us what they are?


There are only two rules of any importance and they are not hard to understand.

1) Don't **** with newbs.
2) Keep it in the game.

Like I said before. If you don't know when you are breaking one of these rules, you are too stupid to be a part of the community.

Mr Epeen Cool


The problem with #2 is that it's none of CCP's goddamn business what I do OUTSIDE of their game. They dont own my computer, they dont pay for my TS server, and theyre not the freakin FBI. As I asked in another thread: If there's a player meetup at some pub around here and I get into a fistfight with one of the other players because he ganked my Venture, can I get banned?

What if I'm hosting the meetup at my house?


I really don't get all you people trying to make up weird comparisons so you can weasle your way around a few rules that are really, really simple and very much common sense. Just ******* behave like decent human being. It really is simple as that.


I honestly feel that those crying they were banned for no reason at all are most likely just lying, you know? Maybe to save face, maybe just to stirr up some more **** 'cause they can't log in anymore?


Why are you being so hostile? I'm genuinely curious, why is it that it's the carebear crowd where the hostility consistently originates? I have read through this thread and apart from a few people who only sub to post on the forums for what appears to be the express purpose of hostility for their own personal entertainment, but every time someone asks a question or tries to explain their confusion, they are met with hostility from the likes of LS and you and Beers Veldspar.

People came here to ask CCP what's going on, and you came here to pick a fight. Why can't cooler heads prevail for once? You know, the kind that don't fling vitriol like poop at people just because they're on the other side of some perceived boundary between 'good and evil' in the game? I can't imagine this is the biggest problem in anyone's life right now so why the **** are we all taking it so seriously?

Can we just all back down and talk like the adults that we're supposed to be? More than anything else, it's hostility towards others that makes me, personally, not want anything to do with you as a human being. Hostility is wretched and unproductive.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#691 - 2014-09-12 13:50:03 UTC
Zen Guerrilla wrote:
Just ******* behave like decent human beings. It really is simple as that.

So don't scam, deceive, steal, or engage in dishonorable tactics. Simple enough.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Black Pedro
Mine.
#692 - 2014-09-12 13:50:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Black Pedro
Zen Guerrilla wrote:
I really don't get all you people trying to make up weird comparisons so you can weasle your way around a few rules that are really, really simple and very much common sense. Just ******* behave like decent human beings. It really is simple as that.


I honestly feel that those crying they were banned for no reason at all are most likely just lying, you know? Maybe to save face, maybe just to stirr up some more **** 'cause they can't log in anymore?



Except that there are many examples of players who have not "behave[d] like decent human beings" avoiding any bans at all.

And I have no problem believing that those banned with the only explanation given as "real-life harassment" are confused to which of their actions in the last year CCP had a problem with. Perhaps the permaban is deserved, but I can see why those who face this situation are a little miffed from the lack of information.

The 8 Golden Rules of Eve

Why Do They Gank?
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#693 - 2014-09-12 13:53:42 UTC
Andski wrote:
says everyone who has never actually had to deal with GMs


It's funny how you won't have to deal with GMs if you have a working brain and simply understand what is or isn't going to cause trouble.
Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#694 - 2014-09-12 13:53:52 UTC

Quote:

Oh, I have an old Australian convict proverb for this one as well.


It's a little off topic, so forgive me, but this has been bugging me for a while now.... why is it that you Aussies are always wrong about what day it is?

\m/ O.o \m/

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#695 - 2014-09-12 13:54:32 UTC
Ssabat Thraxx wrote:

Quote:

Oh, I have an old Australian convict proverb for this one as well.


It's a little off topic, so forgive me, but this has been bugging me for a while now.... why is it that you Aussies are always wrong about what day it is?



Because you live in the past.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#696 - 2014-09-12 13:55:20 UTC
Gregor Parud wrote:
Andski wrote:
says everyone who has never actually had to deal with GMs


It's funny how you won't have to deal with GMs if you have a working brain and simply understand what is or isn't going to cause trouble.


You're so wrong.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#697 - 2014-09-12 13:56:43 UTC
Gregor Parud wrote:
Andski wrote:
says everyone who has never actually had to deal with GMs


It's funny how you won't have to deal with GMs if you have a working brain and simply understand what is or isn't going to cause trouble.

Implying that being a rule breaker is the only reason to interact with GMs.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#698 - 2014-09-12 13:57:01 UTC
Gregor Parud wrote:
Andski wrote:
says everyone who has never actually had to deal with GMs


It's funny how you won't have to deal with GMs if you have a working brain and simply understand what is or isn't going to cause trouble.


Just to bring you up to speed on the conversation, some folks would like to know what, exactly, is going to cause trouble.


\m/ O.o \m/

"You're a freak ..." - Solecist Project
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#699 - 2014-09-12 13:57:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Gregor Parud
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Gregor Parud wrote:
Andski wrote:
says everyone who has never actually had to deal with GMs


It's funny how you won't have to deal with GMs if you have a working brain and simply understand what is or isn't going to cause trouble.


You're so wrong.


Played for 10 years, never been banned or similar while having pulled many stunts, but (obviously) just in game ones. Apparently I'm doing it right.


As a side note; it's always hilarious (and somehow quite reassuring) it's just gewns and their sock puppets who do the crying.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#700 - 2014-09-12 13:57:22 UTC
Ssabat Thraxx wrote:

Quote:

Oh, I have an old Australian convict proverb for this one as well.


It's a little off topic, so forgive me, but this has been bugging me for a while now.... why is it that you Aussies are always wrong about what day it is?



Oh, that's because we live in the future. It's why we're more progressive than Americans.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104