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New easy way to import EFT format text fittings

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Noriko Mai
#61 - 2014-09-05 13:46:45 UTC
Works fine. Can't find any flaws so far. I tested only the english client.

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CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#62 - 2014-09-05 14:06:38 UTC
Darkblad wrote:
updated my post above with some additional findings.

Also:

[Cattle, Test]
Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Certainly doesn't work. The error message is very generic, just "13:50:16 Meldung Fitting could not be imported from clipboard". Would it be possible to get a more detailed error message? Currently, there's already a message like
"13:52:48 Hint The fitting you are trying to save has corrupted data. The Damsel is not a ship." when I try to safe a modified ship DNA linked fitting. Helps finding the cause of the error.
There are just so many things you can do wrong there, that giving you more specific and descriptive message could be tricky (should be easy in the case of the ship itself though)

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur
Absolutely Not Analt
Carebears on Fire
#63 - 2014-09-05 14:30:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Absolutely Not Analt
CCP karkur wrote:
Max Kolonko wrote:
What about exporting in EFT format to clipboard?
Check what we have on Sisi tomorrow Blink


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Actually I'd probably do it anyway, but my wife is a pretty good shot and I don't run very fast anymore. Big smile

In all due seriousness - this is a fantastic change, on both counts. I know I, for one, love these little things improvements, and say keep up the good work.

elitatwo wrote:
Nice!

Dear CCP Karkur,

since you are playing with fittings at the moment, may I ask if you could add an option to 'delete all' fittings at once? It would help a lot if I could delete my personal fittings and import the newer version of them back and dont have to delete 196 personal fittings.

Then it is perfection.


Also this. Every now and then, I delete large portions of my saved fittings if I change alliances (or they change doctrines) and I clear out my old Eve fittings and reimport the new ones. Being able to delete multiple fittings at once would be a HUGE bonus (since deleting 130+ fittings one at a time is a huge pain).

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Noriko Mai
#64 - 2014-09-05 14:56:37 UTC
Darkblad wrote:
updated my post above with some additional findings.

Also:

[Cattle, Test]
Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Certainly doesn't work. The error message is very generic, just "13:50:16 Meldung Fitting could not be imported from clipboard". Would it be possible to get a more detailed error message? Currently, there's already a message like
"13:52:48 Hint The fitting you are trying to save has corrupted data. The Damsel is not a ship." when I try to safe a modified ship DNA linked fitting. Helps finding the cause of the error.

What kind of ship is "Cattle"?

"Meh.." - Albert Einstein
Absolutely Not Analt
Carebears on Fire
#65 - 2014-09-05 15:51:27 UTC
Noriko Mai wrote:
Darkblad wrote:
updated my post above with some additional findings.

Also:

[Cattle, Test]
Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Certainly doesn't work. The error message is very generic, just "13:50:16 Meldung Fitting could not be imported from clipboard". Would it be possible to get a more detailed error message? Currently, there's already a message like
"13:52:48 Hint The fitting you are trying to save has corrupted data. The Damsel is not a ship." when I try to safe a modified ship DNA linked fitting. Helps finding the cause of the error.

What kind of ship is "Cattle"?


I think that was the point of his test - to see if it would handle that gracefully.

Eve is a multi player game. And you are the content. - Ralph King-Griffin Being meh at two things is not better than being great at one. - Lugh Crow-Slave
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#66 - 2014-09-05 17:56:56 UTC
Absolutely Not Analt wrote:
Noriko Mai wrote:
Darkblad wrote:
updated my post above with some additional findings.

Also:

[Cattle, Test]
Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Certainly doesn't work. The error message is very generic, just "13:50:16 Meldung Fitting could not be imported from clipboard". Would it be possible to get a more detailed error message? Currently, there's already a message like
"13:52:48 Hint The fitting you are trying to save has corrupted data. The Damsel is not a ship." when I try to safe a modified ship DNA linked fitting. Helps finding the cause of the error.

What kind of ship is "Cattle"?


I think that was the point of his test - to see if it would handle that gracefully.
Yeah, it's cool to try all sorts of weird stuff P

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Darkblad
Doomheim
#67 - 2014-09-05 18:23:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Darkblad
Noriko Mai wrote:
Darkblad wrote:
updated my post above with some additional findings.

Also:

[Cattle, Test]
Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Certainly doesn't work. The error message is very generic, just "13:50:16 Meldung Fitting could not be imported from clipboard". Would it be possible to get a more detailed error message? Currently, there's already a message like
"13:52:48 Hint The fitting you are trying to save has corrupted data. The Damsel is not a ship." when I try to safe a modified ship DNA linked fitting. Helps finding the cause of the error.

What kind of ship is "Cattle"?
Behold the (upgraded) Cattleship! Nothing the ingame fitting browser accepts (as Cattle is no ship), so it was a good opportunity to check how the EFT format import breaks Blink

Oh, by the way, that pictured fitting EFT format exports itself this way:
Clipboard wrote:
[Cattle, Cattle*]






Ship, name, linebreaks.
And this
Clipboard wrote:
[Cockroach, test2]
QA Cloaking Device
QA ECCM
Imports just fine as this. And can be exported to clipdoard again. So it appears that non-ship fittings lack modules when exporting while keeping the "ship".
But no one with a bit of sense left would want to export something like that anyway Bear

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#68 - 2014-09-06 10:23:28 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
Gaeid Modiso wrote:
What about items in the cargohold, like ammo & scripts, will those also be imported into the fitting tool like it is when you import the EFT XML export file?


Ammo will be included in the cargo.
If you import this:
125mm Railgun II, Guristas Iron Charge S

it will include the number of charges that the module takes.
And you can also have
Guristas Iron Charge S x1000

and then extra 1000 of that ammo will be in your cargo.
(it only allows for charges, ice and drones, the same as the fitting does now)

This sounds like it could be a problem. If you have filled your cargo with extra ammo/charges in EFT and the import tries to put in the stuff you have loaded too, you would end up with an overloaded bay in the import.
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#69 - 2014-09-06 10:30:00 UTC
Lucas Quaan wrote:
CCP karkur wrote:
Gaeid Modiso wrote:
What about items in the cargohold, like ammo & scripts, will those also be imported into the fitting tool like it is when you import the EFT XML export file?


Ammo will be included in the cargo.
If you import this:
125mm Railgun II, Guristas Iron Charge S

it will include the number of charges that the module takes.
And you can also have
Guristas Iron Charge S x1000

and then extra 1000 of that ammo will be in your cargo.
(it only allows for charges, ice and drones, the same as the fitting does now)

This sounds like it could be a problem. If you have filled your cargo with extra ammo/charges in EFT and the import tries to put in the stuff you have loaded too, you would end up with an overloaded bay in the import.
You can also import totally invalid fits and people have done so. It does not mean you will be able to fit your ship like that in reality.

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Lothras Andastar
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#70 - 2014-09-06 14:29:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Lothras Andastar
Gonna say, calling it "Import from EFT format" sets a pretty dangerous precedent as it gives the impression that EFT is officially supported, sanctioned and/or endorsed by CCP. This is problematic as it is closed source and could potentially be changed into a malicious app without any warning.

It would be better to simply call it Text format or mention the open sourse (and imo superior) pyfa project instead.

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CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#71 - 2014-09-06 14:45:06 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP karkur
Lothras Andastar wrote:
Gonna say, calling it "Import from EFT format" sets a pretty dangerous precedent as it gives the impression that EFT is officially supported, sanctioned and/or endorsed by CCP. This is problematic as it is closed source and could potentially be changed into a malicious app without any warning.

It would be better to simply call it Text format or mention the open sourse (and imo superior) pyfa project instead.
That's a good point, because we will not be chasing EFT with any changes they might do, and calling it EFT might imply that. I'll take it up with the rest of my team... thanks Smile
(and the reason we are adding support to this format (as it is) is because it's so widely used in the community).

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Lothras Andastar
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2014-09-07 18:37:04 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
Lothras Andastar wrote:
Gonna say, calling it "Import from EFT format" sets a pretty dangerous precedent as it gives the impression that EFT is officially supported, sanctioned and/or endorsed by CCP. This is problematic as it is closed source and could potentially be changed into a malicious app without any warning.

It would be better to simply call it Text format or mention the open sourse (and imo superior) pyfa project instead.
That's a good point, because we will not be chasing EFT with any changes they might do, and calling it EFT might imply that. I'll take it up with the rest of my team... thanks Smile
(and the reason we are adding support to this format (as it is) is because it's so widely used in the community).

I understand that. :) It's a good idea and the format is used across a variety of fitting programs. Maybe call it "Plain Text Format" then make a Evelopedia page on what that means or something.

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Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#73 - 2014-09-09 13:09:50 UTC
+1. Importing fits just became a butt-load easier.

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#74 - 2014-09-10 21:03:54 UTC
I tested this with PYFA, run on a Macintosh.

It worked fine.

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Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
#75 - 2014-09-11 04:21:02 UTC
This is so much win <3

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Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#76 - 2014-09-12 19:00:25 UTC
CCP Turtlepower wrote:
Ahoy!

We will deploy a new feature to Singularity in the very near future (today or tomorrow) which will allow you to import text based fittings using the EFT (EVE Fitting Tool) format with just 1 click, for example from EFT, Pyfa killboards, Battleclinic, etc. Here is how it's done:

1. Copy the fitting text to your clipboard
2. Go to your client, open the fittings window
3. Click on 'Browse'
4. Click the little icon in the bottom center that looks like 2 papers
5. Profit!

This feature does not care about text formatting other than that the modules are all separated by line breaks.

Please try the feature out and leave any feedback you might have in this thread.

Fly safe!
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#77 - 2014-09-23 04:04:43 UTC
it would be 100% more awesome if you wouldn't have to open two windows and press a button to insert a fitting. Imagine the client would recognize the fitting whenever you paste it via ctrl+v and no text field is focused.

At the very least make the fitting window is smart enough to read text from ctrl-v if it has focus.

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Steppa Musana
Doomheim
#78 - 2014-10-09 10:07:30 UTC
Thanks but an option to import multiple fittings at the same time would also be lovely.

Not from clipboard, but from the file list.

You can highlight multiple fittings (left column) in the import menu, but it still only imports one.

Hey guys.